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You are in the Volkswagen Passat
What is this discussion about?
Volkswagen Passat, Sedan, Wagon
Oct 18, 2008 (4:42 pm)
What you are inferring is that you are saying is that the Amsoil sludged, it is not the oil that sludged up it is the crap it loosened up. I will refer again to the folks that started using Amsoil early on their cars life(25,000 or so).
Amsoil fanatic, I see. And if you read the next paragraph - very carefully, I challenge you to assert that I am inferring that the Amsoil sludged:
Here's the bottom line - It doesn't matter if you, I, or Amsoil says that their oil is certified for the 502.00 or 503.01 specification - VW has the final say. And using oil that is not on the 502.00 or 503.01 Specification list gives VW justification for rejecting a sludge warranty claim.
What part of that paragraph didn't you comprehend?
Insead of sitting around and expecting a good life from bad habits WAKE UP America and get rid of the crap in your life.
Which is why I prefer a premium European oil (Motul) in my European engine over Amsoil. Your overly-defensive stance confirms my assertion that AMSOIL = AMWAY...
No thanks AMSOIL... I'll rely on my 28 years of experience as a VW owner and my track record:
1975 Mk1 Scirocco - 250,000 miles
1987 Mk2 Golf GT - 624,000 miles
1997 Mk3 Jetta (currently at 268,000 miles)
2003 Mk4 Wolfsburg Jetta 1.8T (currently at 128,000 miles)
2003 B5 Passat GLS 1.8T (currently at 92,000 miles)
YOU ARE WRONG !!!!
And stop misleading the readers of this forum !
I have a track record with the readers of this forum, along with my very-knowledgeable counterparts like shipo, bpeebles, altair4 (to name a few). We prefer not to let our advice be influenced by emotional evangelism towards one product or another.
Something to think about...
Oct 19, 2008 (4:13 am)
I agree that VW has the last say in what they will warranty. They will tell you it is approved.
So call the VW dealership in Eau Claire, you can find on VW official web site and ask them.
Or call any VW dealership and get that confirmation.
Anyone else out there can do the same.
#247 of 292 Re: [drotse]
Oct 19, 2008 (7:21 am)
Can you provide a link to the VW web site where it says this is approved?
Oct 19, 2008 (7:33 pm)
Call the dealership in Eau Claire Wisconsin. The VW dealership where I had the warranty work done on my 2001 Passat. Ask for the service manager. They honored the fact that I used Amsoil 5W-40 European Car formula, every 3,000.
Now Pat you must have been reading my posts, because you have been censoring them. You know that this is what I have been telling you and everyone else, Just because the oil is not on the list of " ... generally available oils ..." does not mean that the list is a complete list of approved oils. Call the VW dealership, any VW dealership and see for yourself.
Call the VW dealership in Columbus, Ohio Byers.
Call the VW dealership in Appleton Wisconsin.
#249 of 292 Re: [drotse]
Oct 20, 2008 (4:56 am)
I thought you mentioned that the VW official website tells us about this - I was just asking if you could link us to that page.
By the way, if you want to discuss "censoring" feel free to email me. But be aware that as a private website, Edmunds.com sets its own rules of engagement. All members agree to abide by those rules when they join. On an occasion where one or more of them are not followed, yes, posts may be removed. That is not censorship; it's Edmunds ensuring that promises made are promises kept for the sake of all of our membership.
#250 of 292 Oils...
Oct 20, 2008 (9:52 am)
I would have to agree that unless VW states very clearly and publicly I would stick with the list as published. I have had tremendous success w/ Mobil 1, 0w40 and to suggest it is anything less than superb, IMHO, is just not true. I put 224,800+ miles on my 99 Passat (1.8T engine) before selling it (still running beautifully) and starting at around 30,000 miles, Mobil 1 is all it got. As soon as VW published the official list, I swapped to 0w40 (I don't recall the specific date on that).
For your own needs / likes, if you like Amsoil, and the dealer said they would fully back you up, great, have at it. But that is not *all* dealers. The general public needs to stick with what is published. There are no oil police, pour into the crankcase what you want to pour in. I tend to burn through warrantees pretty quickly, so I mostly do what I think is right for the long term health of the car (I like to keep them a LONG time). For me, that is Mobil 1, 0w40 (now gracing my new Audi A4, 2.0T). (and no, I own no oil company stock - too bad for me!!).
Oct 20, 2008 (5:03 pm)
Pat, what I said is that the Vw website will give you telephone numbers to call the dealership up that serviced my car, the one in Eau Claire Wisconsin. When I presented the info. to them about how I had maintained the car from the time i purchased it 'til it had the low oil pressure light come on that they never questioned the use of the type of oil I used (Amsoil). Now I talked with two other dealerships and I received the same courteous response and said just bring it in and bring the records of the work done and if I had records that verified my story then the work would be done. All three of the dealerships I talked with knew the kind of oil I used. I made it very clear to them that it is what was used. And so it must meet their standards.
Oct 20, 2008 (5:25 pm)
kinct, it is not the dealers that are backing it up, it is VW. The dealers are not going to nack anything up that VW will not. VW pays for the repairs.
The general public, If they have any questions as to what to do should contact VW to see what they really will back! The general public however is not interested in taking the time to research what the reality of the facts are. So you are right they are limited.
Just like the fact the Mobil 1 tech told me that Mobil 1 can not be filtered down past 10mc. because it would then loose all its detergents thus becoming a useless oil.
Mobil has a good website and their technical phone number that they give is very timly in answering the phone and are very helpful. In an earlier post I posted that number, anyone can call and verify what I said about the 10mc. filter limit for
Now if VW will honor the fact that that Amsoil meets or exceeds THEIR spec. and that that oil can be filtered finer than .1(thats one tenth of a micron) then I think that that oil in a clean engine should give better protection. I too like to protect my investment. That is how I got over 300,000 on three nissans (one of them was 610,000 when the body rust caught up to it). My '92 olds is at 189,000 No lubrication problems. And my 2003 MB Sprinter 117,000 no lubrication problems
is still going strong gets nothing but
#253 of 292 Re: Passat 1.8 Turbo/ SLUDGE - new engine at 37k miles [pjp9999]
Dec 25, 2008 (9:55 am)
I hate to tell you, but if anything changing the oil is the most important thing. It is like the cars blood. Dirt and metal fragments can be in the oil, all of that is run through your engine- ALWAYS change your oil. And if it is si drity it cannot properly do that well,