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#228 of 272 Re: [drotse] by altair4 Oct 07, 2008 (10:19 am)
Replying to: drotse (Oct 07, 2008 10:12 am) Thanks...but I'm leaving the kool-aid stand now.
#229 of 272 Re: [drotse] by pat HOST Oct 08, 2008 (4:35 am)
Replying to: drotse (Oct 07, 2008 10:12 am) I'm not sure what your point is. If you are interested in Passats but don't want to talk about sludge issues, we have a number of other discussions in the Passat group which may interest you.   Meanwhile, let me just say that altair's input has been very valuable in our Forums. If you don't care for it, that's fine, but the best thing to do is just skip the posts which you do not find useful. Altair's posts are most welcome here.   Thanks.
#230 of 272 by drotse Oct 08, 2008 (5:58 am)
Wow. So who else as said didly about the active class action suit? who has given these folks any technical information about Mobil1 namely that you can't filter it as good as you can Amsoil. Who has preached KEEP RECORDS. DO YOUR OIL CHANGES.   I e only CRY CRY CRY about VW not honoring their warranty. I have had no problems.   People with sludge problems should learn that they have to read to book and take responsibility. Amsoil at interval is the best oprotection you have. Yes it cost more but if you are not going to keep your records, then I don't care how little you pay for your oil you are going to loose.   If in fact they preople reading this thread want a solution to their problems and their engine is uot of warranty then the BEST THING they can do is find a reputable mechanic flush the daylights out of their engine, as a fact I have the protocol that VW uses right infront of me. Here is how they do it.   They take the vave cover( they call it a head cover) off. They inspect each cam cap(one at a time). They then make determination about to clean or replace engine ( the engine is a factory certified rebuild. If it needs cleaning they clean pan replace hoses, they the use the BG system with 6 qts. of cleaner. They adjust cam tensioner they replace oil with a standard oil run the engine for a certain amout of time then drain engine then replace with their Valvoline(not my choice) synthetic bulk oil then say its ok.   Now Personally my son's car come out of the shop tomorrow. He is in school in Menomonie, Wis. he is going to drive it to Appleton this weekend. He is going to go to a Dealership( where he has some kind fo an arraingment with the dealer(GMC)to do the labor for like $15, he supplies(I supply) oil (amsoil) and a 1mc. filter(Amsoil manufactured by Hastings) and get rid of the Valvoline. I figure the 180 or so miles gives the valvoline enough time to get rid of anyu left over solvents left in the engine. The Amsoil then will give that protection required without breaking down.   Now, Mr Host, if the people reading this THREAD don't understand that this is the best they can do for their car then wo be un to them. And you.   What the heck is his input? THat mobil1 is the only oil worth putting in an engine? That Amsoil is not approved? That these engines have sludge problems. All engines HAVE sludge problems if the owner is not smart enough to get educated about the kind of engines they have in their cars!!!!!! Has he let people know about the active class action suit?   If he has done any of this prior to my involvement with this forum then I appoligize ! ! I am on bended knee. But all that I have heard is how I have lead the masses of sheeple down a bad path and have told them to increase their OCI. When nothing is furtjer from the truth. this is all about SLUDGE. If people KEPP RECORDS, then VW WILL honor their warranty ! ! ! This is not hearsay all they have to do if they have problems is cell the dealer and act intelligent. If their car is older than 8 yrs. then they better start being informed !   Amsoil is better than Mobil1. Yea it costs more. Yes it protects better!    Just call Mobil Tech Support 1-800-662-2545 and ask them if their product can be filtered down past 1mc. . It can not!!!   Go to this site http://www.synthetic-oil-tech.com/d.cgi/1431475/amsoil_vs_mobil1.htm   And read !   Now we are talking about Sludge. And how to keep away from it. You infer I am off point. OK the readers out there I ask you where else is that much info presented in any more of a concise amount of verbage ?   Who the heck is altair anyway? Lets talk sludge and i's remedy not some other person's persona. I don't want to dominate this thing I want more information and this altair has not iven me anything that is new to learn. The other readers can figure it out for them selves but all they really want is to hace someone else tell them what top do! I never told anyone to extend their OCI I juat toold them the truth. Replies to this message: pat (Oct 08, 2008 7:36 am) 600kgolfgt (Oct 15, 2008 3:49 pm)
#231 of 272 by drotse Oct 08, 2008 (6:06 am)
I just reread my last post. I made a mistake !!!!   Mobil1 can not be filtered any more than 10mc.. That is 100 times larger than 1 mc. in surface area and 1000 times larger volumn. DO the math.   The Mobil one tech support said that if you try to filter their oil to 1mc. then you will remove all the detergents.
#232 of 272 Re: [drotse] by pat HOST Oct 08, 2008 (7:36 am)
Replying to: drotse (Oct 08, 2008 5:58 am) Thank you for your perspective - again. There are many ways to solve a problem. We appreciate your input, but please allow others to express other points of view on this particular issue without attacking them.   We need to move on now.

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