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#197 of 292 Re: Expiring warranty...options? [fleased]
Mar 05, 2008 (5:20 am)
So, I had it towed to my local VW dealer (wish I'd done that first) who performed a de-sludge (no charge) and after two days, sent me on my way. I've been driving for the past three days and so far so good. But, I feel nervous every time I get behind the wheel, especially after browsing these forums! Would buying a warranty be remotely wise, or would the imperfect documentation come back to haunt me ?
I would look into the warranty (just for piece of mind). As far as the sludge issue, fortunately for you it was addressed before any major engine damage has occurred.
From this point on, as long as you have the oil changed EVERY 5000 miles (do not go beyond these intervals) using a VW 503.01 specification motor oil, you should be fine (HINT: All oils on this list are synthetic, and 99.9% of the oils on the list are either 0W-30 or 0W-40).
As far as the North American market is concerned, two of the motor oils on that list are readily available:
Castrol Syntec 0W-30 (Made in Germany) - sold at Auto Zone
Mobil 1 0w-40 - Sold at most major auto parts stores
I have two 1.8Ts (2003 Jetta - 110,000 miles & 2003 Passat - 77,000 miles) that have had no sludge related issues to date. What I do is purchase 5 quarts of the VW 503.01 spec motor oil (I use the Castrol Syntec 0W-30 - made in Germany), and take it to the dealer and insist that they use it. Also make sure you staple the receipt from the oil purchase to the oil change service receipt from the dealer to keep with your records.
For future reference whhen your car reaches the 60,000 - 65,000 mile interval, I strongly recommend the timing belt service. Instead of having this done at the dealer, I would do the following:
1) Purchase the timing belt service kit from germanautoparts.com. It includes everything you will need - including the improved aftermarket water pump with a metal impeller. Do this and you will extend your timing belt service interval from 60,000 to 100,000 miles (as recommended by the factory).
Here's the link for the timing belt service kit:
2). Find a reputable mechanic who specializes in VWs, and have them install the timing belt kit (that way you will only have to pay for labor). I would not take it to the dealer because not only are their labor charges much higher, they will insist on installing their factory parts (including the plastic water pump) - and you will pay accordingly $$$$$.
Follow these steps and you will have many trouble-free miles with your engine.
Good luck, and let us know how things turned out.
#198 of 292 Re: Expiring warranty...options? [600kgolfgt]
Mar 05, 2008 (6:00 am)
FWIW... I have a '01 Passat 1.8T with 133700 something miles on it. I have had oil changes done at 5K intervals with the synthetic oil as suggested above. The only real problem I have had with it, required a crank position sensor replacement ($180) to correct it.
My "STOP" indicator came on a few times making me think it was oil pressure but the problem was really that crank position sensor. I did a flush of the oil system but it turns out that I do not have a sludge problem. And the car is running fine now.
#199 of 292 Re: Expiring warranty...options? [majicman]
Mar 05, 2008 (7:00 am)
Hey Jim, that's great to hear that your only issue was the CPS.
#200 of 292 Re: Expiring warranty...options? [majicman]
Mar 05, 2008 (3:22 pm)
My "STOP" indicator came on a few times making me think it was oil pressure but the problem was really that crank position sensor.
Thanks for the info on the crank position sensor. That's another item I will keep a heads up on regarding my 03 Passat.
Have you replaced the following recall items yet?
1. Brake light switch
2. Coolant temp sensor
I had both replaced in the Passat this year...
Thanks, and many happy miles with your Passat...
#201 of 292 Re: Passat 1.8 Turbo/ SLUDGE - new engine at 37k miles [fish8]
Jul 20, 2008 (9:19 am)
I've kept perfect maintenance on my 01 passat and the STOP engine light has been coming on since BEFORE the warranty was up. They SAID they fixed it and for $200 it lasted another 8 months and it started again. They act like a stone wall when I mention it to Any one; salesman, repairman, etc. I won't be buying another VW...
#202 of 292 Re: Passat 1.8 Turbo/ SLUDGE - new engine at 37k miles [ibudic1]
Jul 20, 2008 (9:27 am)
I think VW owes it's customers an apology!!
#203 of 292 Re: Passat 1.8 Turbo/ SLUDGE - new engine at 37k miles [powersolo]
Jul 20, 2008 (10:17 am)
Define "perfect maintenance", please.
Have you used only oils meeting 502.01 or 505.00 spec? No more than 5000 miles?
#204 of 292 2001.5 1.8t and no sludge
Aug 08, 2008 (6:14 pm)
I have 145,000 miles on my Passat and as original owner changed the oil between 4,000 and 7,000 miles. Always used Mobil 1. Used to use the 5w-30 then switched to the 0w-40 at about 80,000 miles. Never had any engine related issues. Best car I have ever owned. Pick up a 2008 Passat wagon for my wife tomorrow. Expect it to last just as long as mine. I hope the 2 Passats can get along in the same garage.
#205 of 292 99 Passat Experience
Aug 31, 2008 (5:50 pm)
I just sold my 99 VW Passat - 224,752 miles on it... Wonderful car. No issues of note.
I have been very good about oil changes. Early on, VW did the changes (free) with Kendahl (sp?), then had a shop do 3-4 (with Castrol "turbo oil", then I took over from that point with Mobil 1 (IIRC 5w50), then Mobil 1 0w40 when VW changed the recommended oil. Early filters (first 120-140k miles) were with Fram filters, then I learned about some of the top-quality brands, so swapped over to Wix or K&N (a mix of the two).
Pretty much did oil changes at 5,000 miles. Never the slightest hint of sludge related issues.
I find it so funny that people complain about VW quality. Here is my run with them:
- (very, very) used 73 VW Super Beetle - um, ok, had some issues there, but this thing had been through hell. Ended up w/ something like 165-170k miles (all but 45k were mine - the original owner did the first 45k miles)
- 87 VW GTI - ran it into the ground - 213k miles. First time it was towed was 199,500 miles (it must have heard me bragging, because that tow came days after I bragged about almost hitting 200k miles with no tow). Had it out on a race track early in it's life which is probably why it did not last that long.
- 86 VW Golf - was actually my wife's originally, but she moved to a Volvo Wagon when we had our second child, so this became mine. Sold it at 193,000 miles (just needed more room when we had our third child... Was still running like a champ
- 99 Passat (224k miles) - sold, but running fine.
Treat the car right and it will do the same to you. Change your oil frequently (use recommended oils, top quality filters). Oh, and better yet, if you do not do your own oil changes, take it to a place you trust TOTALLY, since some clowns could always tell you they put in Mobil 1 synthetic, and then drop in any old oil (and yet charge you for synthetic). Timing belts go without saying (first on my Passat was done at 120k miles, seconds at 215k miles).
Moving up the food chain a little (just bought a 2007 Audi A4 - with 40 miles on it - a leftover to say the least!)
#206 of 292 Passat oil
Oct 02, 2008 (3:51 am)
I see everyone talking about the Mobil 1 oil. While it is good oil I have to admit I prefer Amsoil.
Like anything else in life the good stuff is better. If people would learn how to properly eat their bodies would be like the 2003 Freightliner Sprinter engine (117,000 miles) the two Nissan pickups(one 670,.000 and 310,000) and the '92 oldsmoble(185,000) that I have owned and totally free of sludge. Their colons and blood vessels would not be clogged !
The people in this country need to wake up and learn how to take care of the things around them and how to be more accountable for their actions. That includes with sitting down and reading, learning and practicing good possitive attitude towards life, others and the things they have been blessed with and not being so arigaint that they think that someone else will do good things for them while they sit back and play !
This I have also learned that VW,while not perfect has, has stood up to the plate and has done the proceedure for sludge abaitment to the 2001 Passat I purchased in 2007(84,500 miles) and my son has meticulously maintained since, with Amsoil, with the complete records every 3,000 miles, with absolutly NO question.
This result comes, not from having some one else doing some thing for me with out any of my control but from the fact that I have learned a lesson from the School of Hard Knocks (SHK) and have passed that positive experience on to my son and him realizing that from positive action comes positive results.
Insead of sitting around and expecting a good life from bad habits WAKE UP America and get rid of the crap in your life.
I am new to this tread and so hope I have not bothered anyone with senseless gibberish.