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#550 of 1398 Re: DD Corvette??? Re: Slightly off-topic but advice wanted anyway [rayains
by dougsilver
Apr 27, 2007 (9:39 am)
Hi Ray,
Congrats on your Vette. I bought my Vette new in 1995, perhaps partly as a mid-life toy (I had turned 46) and partly to bring back fond memories from my muscle-car days. This was done against the wishes of my wife and she has hated the Vette (actually the idea of the Vette) from the day I came home with it onward (she drives a 2000 Acura TL). I value my relationship with my wife more than risking monumental aggravation by getting another Vette so that is not an option. Frankly, I would keep the 95 another 20 years if it was up to me but I am tired of the grief.
So the next best thing will be a sporty car that is "more grown up" and both the 335i and the upcoming G37 seem to fit that slot. My wife and I both enjoyed driving the 325es while we had it but the experience was soured by frequent maintenance problems (automatic trans replaced twice in the first couple of years; numerous trips to the dealer to fix the air conditioning system--at least 4 times; problems with gauges not working).
I had been warned about maintenance before buying the 1986 so I should not have been surprised. On the other hand, going with the G37 would be a no-brainer as all of the Asian cars I have owned have been flawless in reliability, but I suspect the G37 would still not be as fun as the 335i. However, before considering another BMW, I was wondering if they somehow improved things in 20 years in terms of reliability.
Doug
#551 of 1398 335i\G37 Re: Slightly off-topic but advice wanted anyway [dougsilver]
by rayainsw
Apr 27, 2007 (9:56 am)
Ah, the “idea” of the Corvette.
Hm. Been married – likely not an argument that can take place – let alone be ‘won’.
Given a choice between the G37 & The 335i ( assuming roughly equivalent MSRPs ) I would choose the BMW. And if you appreciate the driving dynamics of your Corvette, I expect you’d prefer it as well.
Specifically: The 335 has great steaming piles of TQ low down. As does the Corvette. The G does not.
The 335 is geared for relatively low ( compared to the G ) RPM at highway cruising speeds. As is the Corvette.
Both are very nice cars. No disrespect to either.
Have you test driven each?
- Ray
TQ addict – looking for a 12 step program . . .
#552 of 1398 Re: 335i\G37 Re: Slightly off-topic but advice wanted anyway [rayainsw]
by dougsilver
Apr 27, 2007 (10:41 am)
One problem is that the new G37 is not out yet but reports and specs seem impressive. Horsepower is up from the G35 to 330hp and Edmunds had a "first impressions" comparison of the new G37 versus the 335i and the cars were similar in performance. Of course the BMW will always have more allure than the Infiniti but the G37 will probably have a sticker that is $5k or more less than the 335i. I keep hearing advertising from BMW that all maintenance is included for the first several years so, if that is really true, that could partially offset the expected difference in purchase price.
Doug
#553 of 1398 08 Corvette getting mid-cycle refresh...
by white6
Apr 27, 2007 (10:43 am)
so you might wait and take a gander before deciding which way to go. I, myself, am going with a 2007 335i coupe after considering 07 Vette (Vette lease deals aren't very good right now). 08 Vette is getting new engine (430 hp LS3) and some interior upgrades. My new bimmer will be my "company" car and therefore is a 3-year lease. By the time this lease is up there will be several "new" competitors for my dollar on the market, including Pontiac G8, upgraded Vette, rear-drive Impala, etc.
#554 of 1398 Re: 335i\G37 Re: Slightly off-topic but advice wanted anyway [dougsilver]
by white6
Apr 27, 2007 (10:45 am)
All maintenance is covered for 4-years/50,000 miles on new BMW's. Includes everything except tires (including wiper blades, oil changes, brake pads, etc.)
#555 of 1398 Re: 335i\G37 Re: Slightly off-topic but advice wanted anyway [white6]
by dougsilver
Apr 27, 2007 (10:55 am)
"All maintenance is covered for 4-years/50,000 miles on new BMW's. Includes everything except tires (including wiper blades, oil changes, brake pads, etc.)"
That almost sounds too good to be true but it definitely will have an impact on my decision. By the way, I had not heard about the 2008 Vette engine upgrade. Regardless, one truism is that whatever latest and greatest car you buy this year will be quickly eclipsed next year or two. That would probably not happen with either the 335i or the G37 as both are new offerings.
Doug
#556 of 1398 Re: 335i\G37 Re: Slightly off-topic but advice wanted anyway [dougsilver]
by kyfdx HOST
Apr 27, 2007 (11:00 am)
It really is true.... been there... lived it.... it is a great (and undervalued) part of owning a new BMW.
#557 of 1398 Re: 335i\G37 Re: Slightly off-topic but advice wanted anyway [dougsilver]
by pat
Apr 27, 2007 (1:16 pm)
Welcome back, Doug - it's been quite a while. Good to see you again.
#558 of 1398 Re: 335i\G37 Re: Slightly off-topic but advice wanted anyway [pat]
by dougsilver
Apr 27, 2007 (2:23 pm)
"Welcome back, Doug - it's been quite a while. Good to see you again."
How did you remember me? I have always sort of cruised the Edmunds site but the last time I was actively posting was while doing research on the last car we bought (2000 TL). Those were heady days when CarOrder was around and there were super deals to be had by those buying over the web--not so much these days.
Doug
#559 of 1398 Re: 335i\G37 Re: Slightly off-topic but advice wanted anyway [dougsilver]
by habitat1
Apr 27, 2007 (2:33 pm)
Regarding the free maintenance, you might want to get an estimate as to what the regular service will run on the G37 (use G35 prices to estimate). My experience with my Nissan Maxima was that I spent a grand total of $1,151 through the first 50,000 miles on maintenance. That included dealer performed service every 7,500 miles and self performed oil changes in between. On my Honda S2000, I spent a grand total of under $400 in 2.5 years and 19,000 miles, including 3 Mobil 1 oil changes and a 7,500 and 15k service.
I do not dispute the free service offered by BMW is a very worthwhile consideration, but it probably won't put much of a dent in the MSRP difference between the 335i and G37. What would put a dent in that difference is buying the BMW through European Delivery at $1,000 - $1,500 over the ED invoice price (equivalent to $1,500+ UNDER US invoice.)