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Replying to: jmaroun (Mar 11, 2008 9:12 pm) Every car has it's issues. What you make out to the facts based on what you read is up to you. You have two options: 1. take everything as gospel 2. take nothing as gospel Some semblance of the facts are in the middle. |
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Replying to: jmaroun (Mar 11, 2008 3:51 pm) I own a 330i that I bought new in June, 2001, after spending months on this board. Back then, the E46's supposed tendency to overheat generated dozens of posts. (As I recall, some of the early production '01 cars had faulty thermostats. BMW moved quickly to fix this.) Because I prefer to buy - not lease - my cars & because I keep them for at least 6 to 8 years (longer in some cases), I was afraid that buying a BMW would expose me to a world of financial hurt. In short, I was suffering from analysis paralysis. But in the end the test drive won me over. I wanted a fast, well-balanced RWD sedan with a manual transmission & nothing else then available was nearly as satisfying. Well, I've owned this car for almost 7 years, which means that it's been out of warranty for nearly 3 years, & it has yet to overheat for the 1st time. In fact, it's been a remarkably trouble-free car, & I plan to keep it for at least 2 more years. You've got the right idea: stick, SP & nothing else. (If you want nav, pick up a Garmin.) When you step back & look at the big picture, you'll see that the E46 & E90/92 3-series cars have been quite reliable, overall. Let the test drive make the decision for you. |
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Replying to: shipo (Mar 11, 2008 6:18 pm) But what a nobish reply from this guy. Comments like that are not helpful. Joseph San Diego my blog: http://www.carspace.com/blogs/enthusiastsdilemma08 ------------------------------------ I've gotta tell you Joe, I still think you'd be much better served by leasing an Acura TL-S, or a Lexus IS350, or an Infiniti G35. I truly don't think you'll be happy with a BMW 335i. Best Regards, Shipo ------------------------ There's a multitude of serious reliability reports on the 335i. Here's a few references, and there are tons more. http://www.topix.com/forum/autos/bmw-335i Yes, I use the internet as a tool when purchasing a car. Anyone who doesn't is at a huge dissadvantage and is living in the past. Of course, you can't trust everything you read..but you can't claim it's all lies either. Joseph San Diego my blog: http://www.carspace.com/blogs/enthusiastsdilemma08 -------------------------------------------------
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Replying to: jmaroun (Mar 12, 2008 2:51 pm) There are a lot of people who come here and waffle over the purchase of a European car because they believe Japanese cars are more reliable. Long term surveys and anecdotal information found on the internet both tend to support this theory (hypothethis?). In my mind, this has been compounded recently by BMW's insistence that the owner must not service their own car. Removing dipsticks and drain plugs is a sure sign that BMW does not want you to keep your BMW more than 4 years - and I am totally against that. If you want a well built, reliable car and a trouble-free ownership experience, I agree with Shipo - the odds are better with a Lexus, Infiniti, or Acura. I agree with the poster above though - it's easy to over analyze these cars and basically come to a stall. If you go out looking to find a fault with any of these automobiles, you're certain to find it. There's no such thing as the ideal car - every car has it's pros and cons. Modern cars are so incredibly well built and reliable compared to cars just a few years old, that for the most part, there isn't a bad car out there. Whether you're looking at a BMW or a Kia, they just don't fail in large numbers. I say - get the car that makes you happy.
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Replying to: fedlawman (Mar 12, 2008 3:14 pm) If you look hard enough you will find the bit evidence that supports your thinking good or bad...for any manufacturer. |
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Replying to: jmaroun (Mar 11, 2008 3:51 pm) All 2008 335i models with Sports Package and 335xi models with Sports Package and the 18" wheel option get the oil cooler. Actually early models had fuel pump not oil pump problems. I did a lot of research on this and talked to BMW and ended up ordering a 335xi Coupe with Sports Package and the 18" wheel option of course. Its a function of whether or not the car is rated by BMW for a top speed of 150 MPH. The BMW website could be a little better about specifying this but it does mention the speed limitation to 130 without the Sports Package on the Specs page. The xi models do require you to pick the Sports Package and the 18" wheels to get to 150 MPH. Actually BMW is probably assumuing that snow country buyers might not want the Summer only tires with the Sports Package by default and therefore "split" out the tire options.
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Replying to: manybmws (Mar 14, 2008 6:22 pm)  Best Regards, Shipo
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Replying to: shipo (Mar 14, 2008 6:36 pm) 
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| jmaroun...You are the guy who wrote a scathing critique of all the current offerings of the auto industry without driving a single car, other than the 335i, that was named in your "blog." Yeah you probably shouldn't do that anymore... | |
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Mr Empiricalist, Firstly, test drives for many cars are not easy to come by at the moment. Some have not even hit show rooms..and the ones that have are probably not quite available to test drive. Many dealers will flat out tell you of their buy to drive philosophy for cars such as an E92 M3, GTR and such. Secondly, a 10 minute test drive will provide important yet insufficient information when considering a car that will cost many thousands of dollars. Thirdly, if you think reading other people's impressions and reported figures about a car is worthless..why are you reading edmunds.com forums???? Wake up. Reviews are invaluable and the interent is an indespensible tool for car buying. Test driving a car is vitally important for sure. But if a car can't pass basic criteria such as having better than 14mpg (E92M3)..with today's fuel prices, there's is no point in test driving is there. It begs to question the lack of foresight by the industry. The 335i escapes much of the criticism above and in my blog, however one can't help but think it was more luck than genius (on the part of management thinking) that lead to its development. I thank them either way. Joseph San Diego my blog: http://www.carspace.com/blogs/enthusiastsdilemma08
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