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Replying to: waltchan (Dec 19, 2007 6:16 pm) Somewhere on this site there is a link for Capital one auto buying, In northern California their deal is $100 over invoice if the car is on the dealer in the programs lot. In southern california its $300 over invoice but a so cal dealer was willing to sell me the car at invoice and truck it 350 mile to me and have me sign the paperwork here. I called the sales manager of my local dealer and aksed him if wanted to sell a car and told him what deals I had at other dealers, I completed the deal in about 20 minutes after a month of research and pricing. Given its the end of the year I may have gotten a better deal but there were only 3 cars in the state configured the way I wanted. I also get 2000 cash back from GM and the dealer got me a better interest rate by 1% and its lower than I was able to get from applying to 5 banks and I have excellent credit. If you are going to finance I suggest you secure your financing first and then pick your vehicle. I used fightingchance.com for price and negotiation tips. Dealer Cost Item Retail 750 destination 750 33973 list 35950 622.5 wheels 750 742.85 heat and cool seats 895 1614.35 nav sys 1945 161.85 grillwer 195 244.85 lane departure 295 327.85 blind side 395 124.5 heated steeerign 150 747 sun roof 900 0 paint 39308.75 42225 819.5 Advertising western region 40128.25 total 42225 |
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Replying to: waltchan (Dec 19, 2007 6:16 pm) Figure out what invoice is on that car, and consider that your starting point, minus any rebates. Hence, if it were a 2008 CXL with those options right now, should have an invoice right around $35,500--so that would be about your starting point. From that, and again just using now as an idea, you could subtract $2000 in rebate cash...so around $33,500. Basically, a few months into a model year, and with the fact that the spread between MSRP and invoice is fairly small on a Lucerne...$8k off just isn't feasible. It is right now on leftover 2007's, with extra rebate cash available, but that's about it. Just not going to happen, to get that kind of a chunk off, unless it's a leftover 2008 maybe this time next year. Determine invoice price at that time, subtract rebates, and that's your figure. |
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Replying to: beach15 (Dec 22, 2007 7:44 pm)
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Replying to: waltchan (Dec 23, 2007 1:48 pm)
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Replying to: waynenovotny (Dec 23, 2007 2:00 pm) 
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Replying to: waynenovotny (Dec 23, 2007 2:00 pm) Nearly 4 liters yet it doesn't deliver 200 horsepower, which a mainstream 4-cyl car can do these days. It's a torquey engine you say? Yes, it makes decent torque, but even that isn't competitive. Look below: one of these things is not like the other.  Buick Lucerne: 3.8L 197hp, 227 lb-ft, 4-speed automatic Ford Taurus/Mercury Sable: 3.5L 260hp, 245 lb-ft, 6-speed automatic Hyundai Azera: 3.8L 263hp, 257 lb-ft, 6-speed automatic Nissan Maxima: 3.5L 255hp, 252 lb-ft, Continuously Variable Transmission Toyota Avalon: 3.5L 268hp, 248 lb-ft, 6-speed automatic All of the competition makes much more power, most from less displacement. They all also get better fuel economy by as much as 3 MPG both city and highway (not helped by the antiquated 4-speed). Buick does have the V8 option, but it can't outrun these V6 vehicles because of the 4-speed auto, and fuel economy (at 15/23) pales next to the Avalon's 19/28 or even Ford, with 18/28. With the 3800 having a worst-in-class 16/25 estimate, it's no fuel miser either. The Buick 3800 may be solid and reliable, but that's because its been around so long, all the bugs have been worked out of it. It's being discontinued too late, in my opinion. Give it the 3.6 and ditch the Northstar! |
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I'm looking at a new Lucerne.....A dealer ha a CXL with a list price of $29,995...he wants $25,485...that's with $3,000 back from GM. I was thinking of around $25,200......Is that reasonable? Or should I suggest even less?
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Replying to: merckx (May 22, 2008 7:46 am) http://www.edmunds.com/new/2008/buick/lucerne/100890177/prices.html you will get the invoice number there and what people are paying. I paid about $150 below invoice in early December before the rebates. I also put about 25% down and negotiated a rate that was 3/4' of a point below gms rate and the dealer made money on that. You can also go through capitol one auto buying, depending on area and model they are about $100 over invoice for a car on the lot which can get you a starting price before you go into the dealer. I did all my research on-line, found the vehicle equipped the way I wanted then called the sales manger at the local dealer and asked him if he wanted to sell a car. He brought it from another dealer and sold it for the price I wanted. You may want to take a look at fighting chances package and methods for purchasing. I found it very helpful. http://www.fightingchance.com/index.php?js=y I started here at edmunds and worked my way around. Good luck - let us know how you do if you buy A- |
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| My dealer is asking $25,485 for it. That already below $150 below invoice,with the additional $3,000 GM is currently offering... | |
| I managed to get the CXL,which listed for $29,995 for $17,200! I did have $3,400 in Gm credit card earnings,plus a further $2,000 off because my new 2001 Catera proved to be a bit "disappointing"...but still,GM is positively giving these cars away... | |
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