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#162 of 221 Re: I own an 04 TL and am buying a 06 Avalon [osteoman2] by delmar1 Sep 20, 2005 (6:49 pm)
Replying to: osteoman2 (Sep 20, 2005 9:38 am) I have not encountered any torque steer in my automatic 2005 TL....and Frisconick (and many others) hasn't either. I am not saying the TL is the greatest as I am hardpressed to find the perfect car. I could point out drawbacks in any car....including the Av...but I am not going to go that space.   All I can say is that the point regarding the turning radius is way overblown.
#163 of 221 Re: Since you are discussing TLs [strbz70] by pat HOST Sep 21, 2005 (2:24 am)
Replying to: strbz70 (Sep 20, 2005 6:10 pm) I'm glad to see you found the best place for help with this - strbz70, "Acura TL: Prices Paid & Buying Experience" #4545, 20 Sep 2005 10:27 pm.   You might also want to drop the general Acura TL discussion as well. Good luck!
#164 of 221 Re: I own an 04 TL and am buying a 06 Avalon [frisconick] by osteoman2 Sep 21, 2005 (11:40 am)
Replying to: frisconick (Sep 20, 2005 5:35 pm) I'm glad your car didn't suffer from this. However, my car was an 04 TL AT and had significant tourque steer daily and often. This effect was not minimal. Not something a person couldn't live with but annoying.   Guys I'm not bad mouthing the TL but I am giving my opinion between the two cars. The TL is a lot of fun to drive. But all my comments above are true for my car. I have a friend who has an 05 TL AT and he hasn't experienced problems with rattles either. So my comment to the poster above regarding 04 vs 05 would be go for the 05. They also fixed the "butt print' in the seat issue for the 05's.   Clearly I agree with you guys liking the TL or I would never have bought one. I wish driving both made sense.   It's all about trade offs and what a person likes the most. Purpose of this forum is to help those trying to decide so I hope my experience helps given I have had both.   Fris you are right the pluses of the TL do exceed the negatives. However, if people want an honest eval of the good and bad we should tell them. Replies to this message: bodble2 (Sep 21, 2005 3:37 pm) frisconick (Sep 21, 2005 5:39 pm)
#165 of 221 Re: I own an 04 TL and am buying a 06 Avalon [osteoman2] by bodble2 Sep 21, 2005 (3:37 pm)
Replying to: osteoman2 (Sep 21, 2005 11:40 am) I'll be the moderate voice here. I do experience some torque steer with my auto TL. A bit. Not enough to alarm me, or to make me shoot off into the weeds, but it's there nonetheless. Rough road surface will bring it out more. If the road is glass-smooth, then it is hardly noticeable.   And I don't know if it is due to FWD, or just the steering geometry, but I find the TL's steering, overall, to be a bit "loose", or "light" if you will, even when cruising at a steady pace, on all but perfectly smooth surfaces.
#166 of 221 Re: I own an 04 TL and am buying a 06 Avalon [osteoman2] by frisconick Sep 21, 2005 (5:39 pm)
Replying to: osteoman2 (Sep 21, 2005 11:40 am) I agree 100% osteo, but many of the problems associated with the 04 TL were fixed in the 05. But I would never knock anyone from buying the wonderful Avy. It just depends if you want a lux sports sedan, or a lux large sedan. I suggest he test drive the cars many times, examine his needs and preferences. Some love the soft cushy cars, other like the sporty. However, they are not mutually exclusive, I tested both cars many times and felt the TL was a great blend of lux and sporty.
#167 of 221 Re: disappointment [bobob20032000] by tedescm1 Sep 27, 2005 (8:12 am)
Replying to: bobob20032000 (Aug 08, 2005 10:14 am) I remember a time when bumpers were made to be bumped.   Today, bumpers scratch at the slightest bump…. it’s great for the auto body interests!
#168 of 221 tedescm1 by billyperks Sep 27, 2005 (8:32 am)
You can say that again. I remember when I had my 1999 Mazda Millenia (Pearl White), I had to fix the bumper twice because of minor bumps that ruin the paint job.
#169 of 221 It came down to this by analyst7 Sep 27, 2005 (9:59 am)
Both the TL and the Avalon are well-put together cars, with somewhat different missions. The Avalon prioritizes a more comfortable ride vs. handling and road feel while the TL is the opposite. Both have great interiors.   IMHO, the exterior of the Avalon is butt-ugly and I couldn't get past it. I would be ashamed to be seen in such an outdated-upon-inception car. I put it in the same "what were they thinking?" category as the Buick LaCrosse. This of course is a subjective point of view, but had the Avalon been a looker, I probably would have bought it.    I just bought an 05 TL at a great year-end price ($30.1M including dest. and mudflaps) and so far it's a great car. Replies to this message: frisconick (Sep 27, 2005 5:23 pm) bodble2 (Sep 27, 2005 5:32 pm) frisconick (Sep 27, 2005 5:47 pm)
#170 of 221 Re: It came down to this [analyst7] by frisconick Sep 27, 2005 (5:23 pm)
Replying to: analyst7 (Sep 27, 2005 9:59 am) LOL, looks of a car is very subjective, I think the Avalon is a great looking car, and my wife hated it's looks, insided and out. The only problem I had with the Avalon is it's size, just too big. I was, however, stunned how fast the car is. Replies to this message: bodble2 (Sep 27, 2005 5:32 pm) frisconick (Sep 27, 2005 5:47 pm)
#171 of 221 Re: It came down to this [frisconick] by bodble2 Sep 27, 2005 (5:32 pm)
Replying to: frisconick (Sep 27, 2005 5:23 pm) I agree the Avy is too big. It looks OK from the rear. But from any other angle, the look is way conservative and bland. Interior is not sporty. Should be in a Buick. Replies to this message: frisconick (Sep 27, 2005 5:47 pm)

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