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Audi A4 vs Acura TL vs Volvo S60 vs VW Passat

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#19 of 88
We could wait but when this close... by tcatnat
Aug 07, 2005 (4:35 pm)
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We could wait but when this close to the new model year you may get a few more bells and whistles for a slightly lower lease payment just for waiting a month. And fror the record, Acura said there were very little chanegs coming but he could be more specific.
 
Either way, we drove today and opted for the Audi A4 quattro. What a fun car to drive. Picked up an '05 with tiptronic, premium package and heated leather seats. I drove a lot of cars over the ast two weeks and the Audi is truely a drivers car. The interior was also roomier than expected. Ididn't notice any turbo lag either. If you're looking for a car in this class make sure you drive all the cars. Don't eliminate one because of what it sayd on paper. I almost did and thus would have never driven the Audi.
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Re: We could wait but when this close... [tcatnat] by frisconick
Aug 07, 2005 (4:49 pm)
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Replying to: tcatnat (Aug 07, 2005 4:35 pm)

Congrats on your new ride I am in the market for a new car and will test drive an Audi. Never thought I would, but your post convinced me.
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Re: well we can wait forever [bodble2] by delmar1
Aug 09, 2005 (6:18 am)
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Replying to: bodble2 (Aug 07, 2005 4:32 pm)

Its like a merry-go-round... You have to hop on board if you are going to grab for the gold ring.
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Re: Audi A4 vs Acura TL vs Volvo S60 vs VW Passat [dulnev] by rjlaero
Aug 09, 2005 (6:46 am)
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Replying to: dulnev (Aug 04, 2005 4:59 am)

To say the 2.0 A4 is an absolute piece of junk is a ridiculous statement.
 
Poor inside materials?....yeah right. Audi has been the benchmark for quality interiors for the better part of the past decade. Many other car manufactures have used Audi as their traget for their interiors. Quattro has been out for 25 years and it's the best AWD system out there for a car.
 
The nav in a bad spot? Where do you want it? It's in a perfect spot smack in the middle of the console. It's easy to use and much better than any IDrive from BMW. The driving directions also come up on the center dash as well and it's pretty easy to follow.
 
Resale is also very good on the Quattros.
 
About noise, the new FSI techology does create a bit of extra noise due to the way the fuel is injected into the combustion chamber rather than the intake. The 05.5's were a mid year replacement, and from my driving experience, the new 06's have been tweaked and are quieter and the exhast sounds sweeter as well. The new 2.0 has 100hp per liter and more torque than hp. Mated with the 6 speed manual, the 2.0 is one sweet engine and it's been praised by just about every car magazine out there.
 
BMW, Mercedes, and Audi are all going to be more expensive than any Japanese, Vovlo (Ford), or VW. But Audi is a good value when you compare them to their main German rivals, and are thousands less than what BMW and MB charges for similarly equipped cars.
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A4 junk? by tcatnat
Aug 12, 2005 (4:50 am)
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rjlaero,
 
I found that Audi A4 statement comical. No car in this class is junk. As I mentioned earlier I chose the A4 because it had a sportier feel that the TL or S60. The TL snd S60 are obviously larger cars with more rate HP but the Audi just seemed more complete to me. You cannot go worng with any of these and it will come down to persoanl preference. Also, Audi still offers scheduled maintenance and free oil changes, a nice perk. Acura and Volvo have discontinued these programs.
 
I'm picking the A4 up tomorrow and will provide some initial impression details after the weekend.
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Re: A4 junk? [tcatnat] by taxesquire
Aug 12, 2005 (5:13 am)
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Replying to: tcatnat (Aug 12, 2005 4:50 am)

I can speak a bit about Audi and agree that it's a quality vehicle. I drove a Passat GLX for 4 years. Passat is to Audi as Toyota is to Lexis. At least in 2001 (and 1/2!!!), what they did was take the v6 available in the A4 (which is less powerful than the A6 engine) and put it in a Passat which is more similar in size to the A6. From sitting in friends' Audi's, I can attest that my Passat's interior was very similar in terms of workmanship.
 
That 6 cyl engine is a great engine. The 5MT had plenty of torque throughout the RPM band - it was quiet, powerful and forgiving. The seats and interior materials were comfortable, well-designed and well-put together. And since my Passat handled very well, I am sure the smaller, more sporty A4 would, too. I would suggest anyone looking at an AWD BMW 3-series also check out Audi. I don't believe Audi has a RWD platform (am I right?); otherwise, I'd recommend it to all who are considering a 3-series.
 
QUESTION TO AUDI A4 OWNERS: in my 4 yrs of Passat-driving, I only came up with 2 complaints, both w/r/t the steering wheel controls. On your wheels, are the radio controls on the right? Also, do the tuning buttons act as a general scan feature or scroll your presets? Mine were on the right side and scanned the dial rather than just presets. My only complaints in 4 years.
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Re: A4 junk? [tcatnat] by bodble2
Aug 12, 2005 (9:51 pm)
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Replying to: tcatnat (Aug 12, 2005 4:50 am)

With today's cars being so low-maintenance, I feel that free maintenance is a bit of a sales gimmick and should be a non-factor in one's buying decision. Usually maintenance for the 1st three years amounts to no more than a few oil changes and a couple of tire rotations.
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Re: Audi A4 vs Acura TL vs Volvo S60 vs VW Passat [strato435] by tomatopie
Aug 17, 2005 (7:30 am)
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Replying to: strato435 (Aug 04, 2005 1:15 pm)

Early report on my '05 Passat TDI: Driving mostly highway, got 39 mpg on the first tank (that's 2-3 mpg lower than the on-dash indicator would suggest). Cooler day yesterday, got readouts of 45 - 47 mpg on my commute, which should translate into an actual of 42 - 45. Sweet!
 
Complaints?
 
Occasional buzz/rattle from the rear (door? seat? can't tell) and bucking at 42 mph when the auto trans seems to be deciding between 4th and 5th gear.
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Re: Audi A4 vs Acura TL vs Volvo S60 vs VW Passat [tomatopie] by fish8
Aug 17, 2005 (9:22 am)
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Replying to: tomatopie (Aug 17, 2005 7:30 am)

"Occasional buzz/rattle from the rear (door? seat? can't tell"
 
Have had this in both of my VW's. It most likely is the rear door lock. It tends to buzz or rattle. It sounds like plastic against plastic.
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Re: Audi A4 vs Acura TL vs Volvo S60 vs VW Passat [fish8] by tomatopie
Aug 17, 2005 (10:49 am)
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Replying to: fish8 (Aug 17, 2005 9:22 am)

"Occasional buzz/rattle from the rear (door? seat? can't tell)"
  
Have had this in both of my VW's. It most likely is the rear door lock. It tends to buzz or rattle. It sounds like plastic against plastic.

 
Any solution? Keep locked, unlocked? Duct tape?

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