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#10284 of 10338 BMW twin turbo 4 Re: Looking for used Luxury Sedan [michael0137]
by rayainsw
Jul 05, 2012 (6:18 am)
'now BMW has a twin turbocharged 4??? '
Actually the new BMW 4 has a single 'twin-scroll' turbo charger.
'At 240 bhp, the 528i’s 2.0-liter inline-4 with a twin-scroll turbo'
- from R&T
http://www.roadandtrack.com/tests/drives/2012-bmw-528i
- Ray
Odd wording....
#10285 of 10338 Re: Looking for used Luxury Sedan [james27]
by houdini1
Jul 05, 2012 (2:22 pm)
How about the non turbo in-line 6? Has it gone away?
#10286 of 10338 Re: Looking for used Luxury Sedan [houdini1]
by james27
Jul 05, 2012 (7:30 pm)
I think so, but not sure (at least in the USA). The EPA rules require some significant fleet fuel economy increases, and smaller is better. But to retain the same power, turbochargers are being added. The new 4 has more power AND torque than the I-6 it replaces and gets significantly better mileage. Things will continue to get tighter and tighter, and you'll see more tweaks to improve economy whether we like it or not.
Many of the engines have what they call twin-scroll turbo, but it is just one turbo (while some models do have multiple actual turbochargers). There's a valve that adjusts to bring the turbo up to speed quicker so it can add power at much lower engine rpm than a typical single unit. This is less complicated than using multiple real turbos where often, one was smaller to get up to speed quicker, but the other one was larger to provide max boost at higher engine speeds. The timing on that type is messier, and you can have a hole in the middle of the power band. Things are much more linear with the twin-scroll design.
#10287 of 10338 E63-worth it?
by txsco
Jul 15, 2012 (7:53 am)
If this needs to be a separate thread, just let me know. Currently own a 2011 MB E350; I like the car very much, but would like to have a bit more power. Have a chance to purchase a 2011 E63; I've read everyting I can on this vehicle, taken a test drive, etc, but was seeking some advice from owners. It's a lot more money-is it worth it? I really liked the car, but any and all advice is appreciated.
#10288 of 10338 Re: E63-worth it? [txsco]
by graphicguy
Jul 15, 2012 (8:03 am)
Frankly....like any car, it's worth it if you believe it is. It's your money.....your choice. Good luck!
#10289 of 10338 Re: E63-worth it? [graphicguy]
by txsco
Jul 15, 2012 (11:38 am)
Good point; I guess I should have been more specific. Does anyone have any short or long term experience owning/driving an E63? I'm leaning toward buying the car-would like the power-but am given pause-ok, only a bit-as I haven't owned a RWD car in 25 years.
So what's the driving experience like?
Thanks.
#10290 of 10338 Used 5 series transmission
by mad_chicken
Mar 13, 2013 (9:23 am)
Was researching 2011 2012 5 series. Read a lot about the transmission problems in the 2011 model. Has anyone had any problems with the 2012 model? Also, if the car learns how the driver drives and the transmission adjusts for it, how does it work out when buying a used car? Thanks in advance for any help.
#10291 of 10338 Maintenance cost BMW 5 vs MB E350
by mad_chicken
Mar 13, 2013 (9:57 am)
Was told by a mechanic before that the maintenance cost of MB is noticebly greater than that of BMW. Would like opinions and experiences. Thanks much.
#10292 of 10338 Re: Maintenance cost BMW 5 vs MB E350 [mad_chicken]
by graphicguy
Mar 14, 2013 (5:18 am)
Which mechanic told you that? Maintenance is higher with both BMW and Benz, when compared to a Ford, for example.
Might want to look here to get an idea of the cost to own one over the other....
http://www.edmunds.com/tco.html
#10293 of 10338 Re: Maintenance cost BMW 5 vs MB E350 [mad_chicken]
by kirstie_h HOST
Mar 14, 2013 (6:45 am)
Well, this might be true if you were buying new, as BMW includes the first two years of maintenance - so your first two years of true maintenance cost on the BMW would be $0. If you look at following years 3-5, there's not an appreciable difference in maintenance costs.
Repair costs? Not sure about that one, but fluids and wear & tear items don't seem to be vastly different.