Last post on Nov 25, 2013 at 11:27 AM
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Lexus GS 430, Acura RL, BMW 5 Series, Volvo S80, Audi A6, Infiniti M35, Infiniti M45, Mercedes-Benz E-Class, Cadillac STS, Sedan
#10339 of 10348 Re: ELECTRICALLY POWERED STEERING SYSTEMS [abacomike]
May 30, 2013 (2:26 pm)
Regarding your question about electronic steering. I really like it on my new e350.
A conventional hydraulic system wants to provide more boost as engine speed increases and cannot moderate boost with road speed.
An electric steering system provides high assist at low speed and low engine speed, while backing off as road speed is gained. Actually engine speed is no a factor at all since the system is not powered off a crank pulley.
Hope you enjoy your new car.
#10340 of 10348 BMW 528xi, Volvo S80 AWD, Audi A6, Mercedes-Benz E350 4matic
Aug 01, 2013 (11:39 am)
The minister of design and finance decided it was time for me to get a new car, test drove the BMW 528xi, Volvo S80 AWD, Audi A6 and Mercedes-Benz E350 4matic as well as the Passat TDI since I'm coming out of a hybrid and the mpg's on all these depress me. The VW was eliminated by the minister of design so I'm trying to weigh my options.
Audi has the biggest back seat for my teenage sons, it even comes in a diesel but that msrp's higher than the MB
The MB is a 2014 and drives the nicest, has the highest MSRP and OTD price, though our local dealer offered me $1,000 under invoice
The BMW is a turbo 4 cylinder that gets the best mpg (important as my sales job logs 20K miles per year) , local dealer want $1 over invoice but its still $5K less than the MB
The Volvo is the cheapest, has plenty of leg room for the boys. Even though the mpg is worst it runs on regular gas, helping to neutralize operating costs
All have been approved by the minister so looking for any anecdotal experience from owners of each of these models that shopped the others:
Why did you pick your car over the rest of the mid size luxury field?
What was your shopping experience like?
Any lessons learned?
#10341 of 10348 decisions/decisions
Aug 19, 2013 (2:55 pm)
Lease is up on my E350 diesel....great car, but I want something with a little more pep. I've narrowed the field to an Audi A6/7 TDI, Bmw 535d or E550. Yes, the E550 is the performance champ in the group, but it's premium fuel and all internet connectivity requires you to buy the useless Mbrace which just bothers me. I've driven the A7 TDI and it is actually fun..I though I was driving a gas car...responsive, quiet..just great. Haven't driven the BMW yet..it's not out, but reviews tell me it should be equally good. I need to order one of them....but which one?
I should add that I'll probably lease for 36 months and the A6 TDI, 535d and e550 are all within $10 of each other on a lease with no money down....so that doesn't help.
The best deal, btw, is the GS350 which is about $100 less per month, but I just felt no excitement driving one with the f package....it was, to me, a dull car.
any thoughts appreciated.....
#10342 of 10348 Re: Maintenance cost BMW 5 vs MB E350 [james27]
Sep 04, 2013 (7:55 pm)
I fully agree, James27. An additional point in favor of higher mileages between oil and filter changes is that filters actually filter better as they accumulate impurities. Sounds contradictory to most folks, but filters plus a layer of dirt, debris, whatever one calls it, filter out more particles. Limits exists, of course. Too much dirt increases flow resistance to a level that forces the oil to flow through the bypass valve, hence no filtration on that part of the oil flow. Too much time and media deterioration can also increase the risk of filter media failure, creating unwanted, unfiltered, flow channels. But both risks occur at very high mileages.
My commercial tractor has an air filter restriction gauge that tells when to change the filter, but has no similar gauge for the oil filter. I change the latter on an engine hour basis, per the manufacturer's manual. The filter is changed every other oil change, again per the manufacturer.
#10343 of 10348 used 2011/12 BMW 535 Xi vs New 2013 Audi A 6 3.0
Sep 11, 2013 (12:45 pm)
I have two options in front of me:
1. Buy a used 2011/2012 Certified BMW 535 Xi under 25000 miles
2. New Audi 2013 A6 with 3.0 t
There is a difference of 6K between the above model & Used BMW is somehow expensive.
What is the general recomendation on Audi A6 vs BMW 535 Xi ?
Which one has less maintenance charges
In terms of reliability which model is more reliable
Sep 11, 2013 (3:04 pm)
Get he audi...new car warranty and more fun to drive.
#10345 of 10348 new sedan, but not German?
by Stever@Edmunds HOST
Oct 21, 2013 (1:56 pm)
A reporter is interested in speaking with a car buyer who recently purchased a new sedan, but did not consider any of the German brands (such as Volkswagen) during the shopping process. If you can assist, please contact predmunds.com by Wednesday, October 23 2013.
#10346 of 10348 Acura RL 2005 Owner:
Oct 31, 2013 (3:56 pm)
Greetings to the Luxury Performance Sedan Forum buffs: The fall of 2004 was a magical time for Acura RL and a forum like none since, Except for maybe this one. But it's good to come back into Edmunds on occasion and see what's new on the street! I still have the 2005 and just turned 102,000 miles. For me Edmunds provided a wonderful environment to talk cars, get educated on them and have a lot of fun reading the posts. Some brilliant, some clever, some newsworthy, some helpful and some belligerent and getting the boot.... what fun!
#10347 of 10348 Re: yes [lexusguy]
Nov 23, 2013 (12:01 am)
lexusguy, you post too much !
Nov 25, 2013 (11:27 am)
Curious comment, as lexusguy hasn't posted here since 2010.