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Hyundai Azera Prices Paid and Buying Experience

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Re: Financing your new Azera... [gamleged] by floridabob1
Dec 24, 2007 (3:08 am)
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Replying to: gamleged (Dec 23, 2007 7:01 pm)

RE: 887
My son was able to do this with a transfer of credit debt to a 0% 12 month loan.
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Re: Financing your new Azera... [floridabob1] by gamleged
Dec 24, 2007 (9:06 am)
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Replying to: floridabob1 (Dec 24, 2007 3:08 am)

I'd received a few 0% offers, but I wanted something firm that would last as long as I wanted it to (although 12 months is unusually generous, it's usually 6 months or fewer).
 
I asked an advisor why companies would basically give money away on a 0% loan (almost always with some up-front money required, of course) and he said that credit issuers are betting that you'll screw up somewhere before you pay off your debt, and then they'll retroactively raise the rate into the 30% range or so! The screw-up can be anything, from a late payment on any credit card you hold, to a late mortgage or utility payment, anything that can show up on a credit report. At this point I have nearly everything on "auto-debit" and what isn't, I pay on-line well ahead of the due date, nothing goes into the mail with a hope and a prayer where my FICO 800+ credit rating in concerned!...
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Re: Financing your new Azera... [gamleged] by floridabob1
Dec 24, 2007 (9:24 am)
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Replying to: gamleged (Dec 24, 2007 9:06 am)

RE: 889
You are correct!
The rule is NEVER be late on a no interest loan. It will revert to a high interest rate going back to day one.
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Re: Financing your new Azera... [gamleged] by kyfdx HOST
Dec 24, 2007 (3:01 pm)
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Replying to: gamleged (Dec 24, 2007 9:06 am)

If you pay a 3% upfront fee to get 0% interest over 12 months, and you make a payment = 1/12 of the balance each month, your effective APR is right around 6%..
 
If you do the same for 6 months, your effective rate is 12%..
 
And, as noted, if you don't pay it off, the rates skyrocket. It is seldom a great deal, in any case.
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Re: Financing your new Azera... [kyfdx] by floridabob1
Dec 25, 2007 (4:48 am)
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Replying to: kyfdx (Dec 24, 2007 3:01 pm)

My son paid no upfront fee for his 0% loan and paid off the loan prior to the 12 month interest free period by transfering remaining debt to another bank offering 0% for 12 months.
If you play your cards right, and there are enough banks available, you can go forever without paying interest.
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Just bought a 2007 GLS by andysam
Dec 25, 2007 (4:44 pm)
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Got what I thought was a great price. I was a little concerned about the car having 80 miles on the odometer. After I bought (Saturday, 12/22) I read the posts about front end problems. Didn't drive the car yet (only home from the dealer). Sure enough, build date is Feb/05/07. Also, I paid $30 for carfax. Carfax reports on Jun. 01/07, this VIN had a pre-delivery inspection. Does it mean it was sold to another customer who may had subsequently returned it? Should I go back to the dealer about the two issues? TSB and pre-delivery inspection? Any advice is greatly appreciated. I know, I should've looked into these before signing.
Thank you!
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Re: Financing your new Azera... [kyfdx] by gamleged
Dec 25, 2007 (7:24 pm)
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Replying to: kyfdx (Dec 24, 2007 3:01 pm)

"If you pay a 3% upfront fee to get 0% interest over 12 months, and you make a payment = 1/12 of the balance each month, your effective APR is right around 6%..
  
If you do the same for 6 months, your effective rate is 12%.. "
 
I don't see it. 3% is 3% (or maybe 3.2% if you count forgone interest for a year on your initial 3% charge). And if you pay off the debt early at six months the 3% becomes an effective 6%...
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Re: Just bought a 2007 GLS [andysam] by gamleged
Dec 25, 2007 (7:30 pm)
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Replying to: andysam (Dec 25, 2007 4:44 pm)

Most likely your car was delivered to one dealer (who did an inspection) and was later traded (and driven) to another nearby dealer in exchange for a different model. My Sarasota dealer didn't have the exact Azera I wanted so he traded an SUV he had on hand (that a dealer in Lakeland wanted) for the Lakeland Azera... and there went a hundred-plus miles on my pre-delivery odometer...
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Re: Financing your new Azera... [gamleged] by kyfdx HOST
Dec 25, 2007 (7:33 pm)
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Replying to: gamleged (Dec 25, 2007 7:24 pm)

Borrow $100 for an upfront fee of 3%.. ($3)
 
Make six equal payments of $17.17... total paid = $103.
 
Pull out your trusty amortization calculator (What? forgot it in your other pants?)
 
$103 paid over 6 months on a $100 debt = 10.28% APR.
 
That's assuming you can amortize the fee over the six months... If you actually have to pay the fee upfront, then the imputed rate is higher. Of course, if you make minimum payments, then pay the rest of the principal at the end of the payment period, then your imputed rate is lower, as you had use of more of the money for a longer period of time.
 
If the repayment and "zero" interest is over a 12-month period, then the imputed rate is 5.42%. (assuming a 3% upfront fee)
 
Regards,
kyfdx
(free money isn't always free.. it might be, but not necessarily)
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Re: Financing your new Azera... [kyfdx] by gamleged
Dec 25, 2007 (7:53 pm)
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Replying to: kyfdx (Dec 25, 2007 7:33 pm)

Granted I haven't had the need for plugging numbers into an ammo schedule for a while (and the cat peed on my calculator), but if your only cost for borrowing say, $1200 for twelve months is $36 paid upfront, and if you take a full year to pay back the $1200 loan, whether doled out in equal monthly payments or in a lump sum at the end of that year, you've only paid $36 for the year's use of that money, which is 3% of $1200...

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