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#38 of 77 Re: Hyundai Sonota not so hot........ [au1994]
Mar 17, 2006 (8:08 am)
Another "Olds man" that didn't just migrate to other GM divisions. Clearly not many did.
#39 of 77 Re: Ummmmmmmmmm..... [rockylee]
Mar 17, 2006 (8:29 am)
Well since I'm feeling kind I will buy you a Ford Fiesta and will make the payment for you.
Hey Rocky, I'll take you up on that. Make mine a Fiesta RS:
#40 of 77 Re: Ummmmmmmmmm..... [bumpy]
Mar 17, 2006 (3:22 pm)
What is that ? Is that sold here ?
#41 of 77 Re: Ummmmmmmmmm..... [rockylee]
Mar 18, 2006 (9:43 am)
It's a European Fiesta (one size smaller than the Focus) with a body kit and a 180hp turbo motor. The Fiesta ST is a milder version with 150hp in Euroland. The closest we ever got to that was the SVT Focus, which was killed as part of Ford's master plan to sell the dullest cars possible in the US.
#42 of 77 Re: Hyundai Sonota not so hot........ [ubbermotor]
Mar 20, 2006 (9:31 am)
Nope, he shopped GM, Buicks mostly, but after riding in my sisters Camry it was a done deal. He had been a GM man almost exclusively for life: 8 Olds, 2 Caddy's, 4 Chevy's and a Buick. He did buy Mom a Dodge Omni once and a Mazda 626 once. He did have a 65 and 66 Mustang and a 56 T-Bird as hobby cars at various times.
Now he's in the Camry and Mom has a Subie Outback. Or the 'Outie' as she calls it. That replaced a 99 Malibu.
It is very painful for him to admit, but their current cars are far superior to the GM ones that they replaced in terms of comfort, features and styling. Like I said he was a loyal GM man despite problems on some of their products:
The one Olds I mentioned that blew the motor.
Another Olds ate 2 transmissions.
Yet another went through axles.
One of the Caddy's was burning oil so he ditched it.
And these were not high mileage cars when the problems occured. Dad was one of those that traded every 2-3 years. Thats changed now that he's closing in on retirement.
#43 of 77 I love your Ford comment, bump...
Mar 20, 2006 (11:10 am)
and its kind of funny, I was tooling along in 1999 in a 1997 Ford Escort in purple metallic paint, enjoying the Ford but finally realizing it just plain looked dull. Dull. Kind of hapless.
My friend had bought a white 1999 Kia Sephia and I asked him what he thought. He could have told me that it drove like the yellowest Yugo on the planet and I still would've looked into test driving my own 1999 Kia Sephia sedan. Really, there was more design intelligence in that 1999 Kia Sephia than the entire Ford lineup put together from 1970 to 1999.
I did and the rest is recorded down in history for automotive junkies to feast upon. The Japanese and the South Koreans both have the ability to concentrate on and produce into production solid and cool little cars.
History. It's a strong, solid thing. Watch Kia and Hyundai dominate the world automotive market. It will be fun.
#44 of 77 Re: I love your Ford comment, bump... [iluvmysephia1]
Mar 20, 2006 (5:04 pm)
Unbridled enthusiasm is a wonder to behold.
Mar 21, 2006 (10:24 pm)
nobody, I mean NOBODY, is more enthusiastic than iluv. It is good to see someone enjoying their ride so much.
#46 of 77 Re: and [nippononly]
Mar 24, 2006 (4:38 am)
Agree. He's gotta be up their as one of Kia's biggest fan. What is there 4 or 5 of them. J/K. I couldn't resist. I will say they are coming along very well, and if the Chinese don't gobble up there fair share of market share to quickly, they will be a major player eventually.
Mar 24, 2006 (6:57 am)
Kia is a major player already - they have a more widespread dealer network than some brands that have been here longer (Suzuki and Mitsubishi come to mind, maybe Mazda, VW, and Subaru too). And they are recognized as a value leader, even if they also still have the rep that you toss a coin on dependability if you go for the Kia purchase. I am sure the warranty overcomes peoples' fears on that score in a lot of cases.
Me, I think another value leader is Scion. All Toyota inside and out at Kia prices. If they have a model that meets your needs, they are one of the best deals going.
I was watching this new show on prime-time last night - either Fox or NBC, I forget which - which is about this youngish guy that works for an airline, and he drives an xB! I chuckled.