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Toyota Highlander, Transmission, SUV
#81 of 315 Love our Highlanders
Mar 18, 2007 (7:50 am)
I am sorry to hear of your bad experience. I have had my 2005 Highlander V6 AWD for over two years and 35K miles and love it. Fast smooth acceleration and a quiet smooth ride and drivetrain that is as good as any I have driven, and better than most. I also have a couple coworkers and a neighbor with the same cars and I have talked to them a lot, and they have nothing but great things to say. In fact I have yet to meet someone in real life who does not agree that the Highlander is one of the best mid sized SUVs available today.
We liked ours so much we recently got a 2007 so both my wife and I would have these wonderful, safe cars to drive. Based on Toyota's published sales data there are way over two million Toyotas on the road with this exact drivetrain, and you will be hard pressed to find enough people with complaints to total even one tenth of one percent of those cars.
I am happy you found a car that you like. We love our Highlander and would highly recommend it to anyone.
#82 of 315 Re: Love our Highlanders [billran]
Mar 18, 2007 (11:36 am)
You may be correct about the 1/10 of 1%, however, based on the number of camry, tundra, solara, highlander, avalon, ES 330, and RX 330 owner blogs complaining about this issue it would seem the percentage is higher. Had I'd not had this issue, I may have felt the same way you do.
To add insult to injury, after 21 years of loyalty I was highly dismayed at the lack of respect Toyota Motor Corp. demonstrated toward me. This idea the vehicle needs to get used to your driving habits is ludicrous. The dealership denial across the country (and I liked my dealership very much until this) where one has to show evidence this is not just your vehicle and there really is a TSB available is shameful.
Thankfully you have not had this very real problem. It is an accident involving a death waiting to happen. As I stated earlier, Toyota IS a GREAT product WHEN it runs correctly. All the best with your new HL.
#83 of 315 Re: Love our Highlanders [billran]
Mar 20, 2007 (5:37 pm)
I have seen billran's type of posts on other forums before, various makes. Many unhappy owners having issues with their cars than suddenly someone chimes in and says, mine is perfect, my nieghbours have the same vehicle, my co-workers also own the same vehicle and they have no problems. Nice he knows so many who own the same vehicle as he does. The poster will go as far as stating how many cars a manufacture makes per year, we own 2 etc. etc. Now I am sure (?) billran is enjoying his HL and is driving it trouble free. But for me personally I see red flags all over the place. Not convinced. Good luck to all those with your problems and hope they are corrected.
#84 of 315 Re: Love our Highlanders [nifty56]
Mar 20, 2007 (5:49 pm)
Well first of all I feel that personal attack is completely uncalled for. And I personally believe that these type of flame posts have no place in these forums. I have never said I doubted anyone's claims that their car had a problem, nor have I attacked them or their credibility, as you have mine. When someone posts however slamming an entire line of cars, one that I happen to own two of and love, I feel it only right to comment. I am not saying that every single Highlander ever produced is perfect. But the poster I was responding to had very bluntly stated that ALL of that model was defective. That is obviously untrue. It is the posts like yours that I find most worrisome of all.
#85 of 315 Re: Love our Highlanders [billran]
Mar 20, 2007 (6:04 pm)
Your might want to keep in mind that up until just a few years ago EVERY 737 that Boeing built was DEFECTIVE. Every one of those was equipped with a multi-stage rudder hydraulic servomotor valve that had a rather serious design defect.
Luckily only maybe 3 out of ~3000 crashed as a result.
So every HL out there can be defective, seriously so, while most might never encounter the circumstances wherein that defect becomes critical to normal operations.
#86 of 315 Re: Love our Highlanders [wwest]
Mar 20, 2007 (6:19 pm)
Fair enough. In that case we could probably say that every car on the road could be defective in one way or another. No doubt your Lexus is defective as well in some way. I respect your opinion and knowledge and I know you and I have gone back and forth on this indirectly. There are an awful lot of people driving these cars without complaint, and mine has performed wonderfully under all types of conditions, so I still feel it wrong to condemn the entire line and suggest everyone dump them for Hondas, as a previous poster had.
#87 of 315 Re: Love our Highlanders [billran]
Mar 21, 2007 (2:49 am)
you make a good argument for avoiding mass hysteria and dumping one product line for another.
however - there is ample evidence people need to exercise caution w.r.t. purchasing these advanced vehicles with "smart/adaptive" controls. even people that have test driven units which were fine at the time of purchase have ended up having issues later.
the manufacturer and dealerships' ability to address these issues and completely satisfy the customer remain important.
#88 of 315 Had hessitation this morning
May 07, 2007 (4:26 am)
My 2007 HL has 5,000 miles on it. This morning I was on the highway in the right lane and wanted to move over. I looked in my mirror and the person in the left lane was pretty far back so I gave it some gas and proceeded to get into the left lane. Well, it took between 1 and 2 seconds to "kick down" and when I looked in the mirror, the person in back of me was scaringly close. I guess when I want to pass, I have to make sure that I really step on it. My '99 Lexus ES300 had a similar delay so I don't think this is anything unique. Toyota transmissions have been criticized for downshift delay for years. I hope the '08 improves upon this. My wife's Mazda Tribute kicks down instantly. I don't understand why Toyota hasn't addressed this. They seem to have a fundmental flaw in their design philosophy regarding automatic transmissions. I can't believe that a company with all of their resources can't fix this. Apparently this can't be fixed with just software alone because they have tried this. I think there is a mechanical design limitation here. I keep going back to the same thing: Do they give their engineers the vehicles that they design to drive on a daily basis? I think they would uncover lots of problems before they become an issue.
#89 of 315 Re: Had hessitation this morning [tomd]
May 07, 2007 (6:29 am)
Keep in mind that your 2007 HL doesn't have a manual clutch but for your own safety needs to act like you have one and are using it correctly.
That's the design limitation the Toyota engineers hare been trying to get around since ~2000 for most modern FWD or front torque biased AWD vehicles.
Not a simple task and insofar as I can see Ford (Edge) is the only marque having solved it, seemingly, so far.
#90 of 315 Re: Had hessitation this morning [wwest]
May 07, 2007 (8:13 am)
Sorry wwest, but you lost me. I'm not sure what you are trying to say here. Can you explain?