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Test drive problem. by kipk
Nov 01, 2009 (2:05 am)
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Recently test drove a new '09 FWD V6 Highlander Limited. Seems the odometer had something like 30 miles on it. This was a $36.000 car
 
With the sales rep in the car, we left the dealership and started down a smooth road. It felt somewhat like there was a tire out of balance, or possibly a flat stop on a tire. Within a few miles, that went away.
 
Just before getting back to the dealer, we were running in the 50 mph range and started up a medium grade hill. Then the "Skipping" or vibration started. It felt like the torque converter was locking and unlocking 2-3 times a second. OR a spark plug had stopped firing and the engine was skipping. It went away as soon as we topped the hill and I let off the throttle a bit.
 
Sales rep said she had never felt that before.
 
Got out of the Highlander and into a new '09 FWD RAV4 V6 Sport. It was very smooth the entire test drive, over the same roads. This was a loaded up $30K car.
 
FWIW the Highlander's "S" shifter indicator showed "5". But I was driving in "D".
 
I was also driving in "D" on the RAV4.
 
Wondering if the fact that the Highlander having the "Shiftable" transmission could be a problem?
 
Kip
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Re: Fixes [wwest] by mccartsj
Nov 01, 2009 (7:20 am)
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Replying to: wwest (Oct 31, 2009 9:53 pm)

Great, thanks a lot for that explanation. Now it makes sense!
 
-Steve
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Re: Test drive problem. [kipk] by minnesnowta1
Nov 01, 2009 (8:39 am)
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Replying to: kipk (Nov 01, 2009 2:05 am)

You experienced the same problem as the rest of us. Unfortunately, we already owne our 09 Highlanders before noticing the problem. Some say the problem diminishes over time. Others, myself included, have not seen a reduction in the problem. I am really starting to dislike this vehicle because of this issue. Toyota just tells me to keep driving it until I have at least 1000 miles on it to see if it goes away. We'll see.
 
My mistake was not test driving the car we bought. It is my wife's vehicle. She did not notice any problem during her test drive of a demo. Mostly smooth roads without inclines. We purchased a different one then the one she test drove. Waited for the right color to come in with Leather. Never test drove it before taking delivery. Noticed the problem the next day and have been experiencing it since.
 
37k vehicle. Nice
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Re: Fixes [mccartsj] by minnesnowta1
Nov 01, 2009 (8:52 am)
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Replying to: mccartsj (Oct 31, 2009 9:06 pm)

Man that is great news. I hope mine clears up because I'm starting to regret my purchase. I actually look at the vehicle with disdain right now.
 
As for the downshift issue. My 03 Honda Pilot did the exact same thing for the 7 years we owned it. Kinda like it puts on the brakes when your already braking when slowing down to stop on a decline. My Honda did this from day one until we traded it for our Highlander. Never had any issues with the transmission. It's just how there programmed I guess.
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Re: Fixes [minnesnowta1] by kipk
Nov 01, 2009 (12:11 pm)
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Replying to: minnesnowta1 (Nov 01, 2009 8:52 am)

When braking and going down hill in our 03 Pilot, when the speed drops to about 40 it feels like the breaks are suddenly pressed harder. It also seems the brake pedal drops just a bit. Yep, been doing it since day one also.
 
Actually when I feel that little "Extra" brake force, the tranny also shifts down a gear. This down shift is probably accounting for most of the "EXTRA BRAKING" feel.
 
Wanted to trade the Pilot for a New Highlander because of the Highlanders smaller size and better performance than the new Pilots. However the tranny thing gives me pause.
 
Might be better to wait until the gremlin has been found!
 
Kip
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Re: Fixes [mccartsj] by stevied5
Nov 01, 2009 (4:49 pm)
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Replying to: mccartsj (Oct 31, 2009 9:06 pm)

thanks for that mccastsj - I'm sure that will be some comfort to the others here (myself included) that this may just be a "running in" thing (fingers crossed !!). I now have just less than 700 miles on my HL v6 sport AWD and the problem appears to have pretty much disappeared (tempting fate here I'm sure), however I got myself in such a state worrying about this (have I got a lemon etc) that I now think every vibration caused by ripples in the road is the problem re-occuring, I keep shifting into neutral at that point just to prove it's the road not the transmission - my confidence is returning, but I can well understand minnesnowta1's comment about staring at your car with distain when it's not running right - more so when it's new and you've just handed over a shit load of money and the dealer doesn't believe there's a problem
 
I have bought many cars from new in my time, the last one being a Mazda 3GT 2.3 with a stick shift and I remember for the first couple of months how poorly is ran, flat spots at certain low revs, the fact that it wouldn't pull cleanly with less than 2000 rpm in top gear etc, but all these problem disappeared as I put a few thousand miles on the clock, it now pulls cleanly well below 1500 rpm in top. I think as the engine loosens up it develops more torque and power at lower revs and this certainly helps it pull more cleanly, the same could be true of the HL as it loosens up - let's hope so
 
I will continue to follow this thread and contribute as necessary
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'09 Highlander shudder problem by jayman6
Nov 02, 2009 (1:51 pm)
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Hey Guys (I'm Canadian),
Just bought an "09 Highlander 5 weeks ago (4WD V6) and was experiencing all of the same symptoms as described from the start - the vehicle would prematurely shift into 5th gear at 55kph (30 mph) and would shudder until about 50-55 mph under light acceleration. I gave it a while to break in as a previous post mentioned something about the "learning curve of the computer". Over the last two weeks since I arrived home from a long trip (approximately 1800 miles), the vehicle has been behaving - I've been actively trying to reproduce the same conditions that caused the vibration but can't any more - the SUV now shifts into 5th gear closer to 50 mph more appropriately and I am not able to cause the vibration. It is possible the break in period settled the issue of shift points with the auto transmission in that they are now more appropriate for engine speed, torque, rpm etc. However, I do notice that the transmission can be more hesitant at times to shift from 4th to 5th after downshifting to 4th to climb a hill at 60 mph and I let off the accelerator when the hill crests. No other issues since, though.
Cheers
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Re: '09 Highlander shudder problem [jayman6] by vttaco
Nov 03, 2009 (6:26 am)
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Replying to: jayman6 (Nov 02, 2009 1:51 pm)

All:
I am pleased to report that that my Highlander no longer shutters/vibrates when changing gears.
The dealer performed two transmission fluid flushes (out of 5 Toyota said would be the maximum to try to resolve the problem) This was to remove any moisture that may have contaminated the old fluid.
 
The vehicle is now running more smooth in overall driving than it did when I first pulled off the lot.
 
Here's to hoping this is a permanent fix.
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Re: '09 Highlander shudder problem [vttaco] by rpanait
Nov 03, 2009 (6:45 am)
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Replying to: vttaco (Nov 03, 2009 6:26 am)

Hi jayman6!
Good to hear you solved your problem. When was your SUV giving you problems? When accelerating or during the deceleration?
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Re: '09 Highlander shudder problem [vttaco] by stevied5
Nov 03, 2009 (7:53 am)
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Replying to: vttaco (Nov 03, 2009 6:26 am)

Hey man - that's really good news. One question though, how loud was the vibration you were getting, at what speeds/conditions did it occurs?. I remember once getting air inside my power steering system fluid and as the air bubbles were pumped through the rack it made the most god awful vibation that was clearly audible at each turn from inside and outside the car, fortunately the system bled itself and the problem went away, but the vibrations I had with my HL were different they were a very regular pattern of pulses occuring under specific condition - maybe you had a different problem to the others here - any way so glad to hear is better - go and enjoy your new car

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