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230 messages,  Last post on Dec 01, 2009 at 9:52 AM

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Re: Transmission cooler [alotawatts] by wwest
Sep 23, 2009 (7:37 am)
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Replying to: alotawatts (Aug 26, 2009 11:47 pm)

It is entirely possible that there was a period of time when ALL RXes and HL's were shipped with the towing package. Toyota seems to have been well aware of the problem caused by the design change, abolition of the ATF accumulator, made back in ~'98.
 
Prior to the somewhat "final" solution of using E-throttle, introduced with the RX330, to "protect the drive train" they seem to have come up with a interim solution that resulted in localized (most likely "local" to the gear type ATF pump) heating of the fluid. In order to alleviate at least some of the degradation of the ATF from overheating the external cooler was made "standard".
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Transmission Transfer Case by docscott72
Oct 08, 2009 (7:33 am)
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Hey there, I have an 04 Highlander that is leaking transmission fluid from a faulty seal at the right side of the transfer case. Apparently this is a known issue with the 04-06 Highlander and Sienna. I feel like I am getting screwed as the production date of my vehicle was June 24 and it is now October 8 and therefore my power train warranty has expired (by a whole 3 months). I only have 53k in miles and all service has been kept up to date. Any suggestions on what to do or am I going to have to eat this one (about $1500)?
Thanks
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2003 Highlander - Jerking Transmission in low gears by fixrixsix
Oct 08, 2009 (7:47 am)
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I recently had my engine replaced in my 2003 HL and within 10 miles, the lower gears would start "jerking." It is fine when engine is cold (which isn't long). Tranny fluid replaced. Toyota service (not where I had work done) says that I should drive the car for awhile (months) to "reprogram the transmission to my driving patterns." What kind of "driving patterns" have to be programmed for a car to "learn" how to go from 1st gear to 4th gear? Any thoughts?
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Re: 2003 Highlander - Jerking Transmission in low gears [fixrixsix] by wwest
Oct 08, 2009 (8:43 am)
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Replying to: fixrixsix (Oct 08, 2009 7:47 am)

Your driving habits, in this instance, have NOTHING to do with the engine/transaxle ECU's "learning" process.
 
But the newly restored engine POWER/TORQUE might.
 
So Toyota might be correct.
 
OUCH, that HURT...!!
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Re: Transmission Trouble? [paul143] by casandraw
Oct 11, 2009 (8:01 am)
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Replying to: paul143 (Sep 22, 2009 4:13 pm)

I have the exact same problem. I have had my highlander for 3 days and just noticed it. Did you ever find out what the cause was and the fix?
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Re: Transmission Trouble? [casandraw] by minnesnowta1
Oct 12, 2009 (5:03 pm)
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Replying to: casandraw (Oct 11, 2009 8:01 am)

OK, what is the deal. Just purchased an 09 Highlander Sport AWD and noticed the same issue as both of you. Noticeable shutter when the accelerating uphill and the car shifts into 5th. Then the shuttering starts. I did notice it when we bought the car but thought it was the road. After several test runs I am convinced there is an issue. The Toyota dealer of course said we have not heard of any issues.
 
Have you come up with anything???
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Re: Transmission Trouble? [minnesnowta1] by wwest
Oct 12, 2009 (8:07 pm)
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Replying to: minnesnowta1 (Oct 12, 2009 5:03 pm)

Since they made a significant design change in their transaxle design back late in the last century that resulting in several unforeseen problems (poor thought process), Toyota has been struggling to come up with a FINAL solution. One of the fixes they tried very early on resulted in localized overheating of the ATF.
 
It appears that as a result they have been overly cautious about the issue of more closely controlling ATF line pressure, ALL aspects of line pressure. The goal seems to be constantly keeping the line pressure as low as seeming possibly in order to reduce the ATF heating due to pressurization to the n'th degree.
 
So I find it not surprising that some of you are getting clutch "chatter", shuttering, once you reach roadspeeds that dictate the use of higher gears ratios. Higher gear ratios reduce the need for high line pressure so my guess would that Toyota, yet again, is cutting things just a tad too close.
 
That makes it all the harder for me to understand just why the solution Ford took for solving the exact same problem in the Edge transaxle design was not acceptable to Toyota.
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Re: Transmission Trouble? [casandraw] by fixrixsix
Oct 13, 2009 (7:18 am)
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Replying to: casandraw (Oct 11, 2009 8:01 am)

I have it with the transmission folks now. I will let you know what happens. Seems to have to do with the fluid pressure and they may have to replace a part. More later.
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Re: Transmission Trouble? [fixrixsix] by wwest
Oct 13, 2009 (9:20 am)
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Replying to: fixrixsix (Oct 13, 2009 7:18 am)

Be careful...
 
They might replace one of the pressure controlling solenoids which may solve your problem until the engine/transaxle ECU completes the (re)learning process for the new solenoid and then begins to optimize FE again.
 
The engine/transaxle controlling ECU must get a "mind-wipe", go back to the factory default, rolling off the production line, parametric mapping, any time a new component of this class is installed.
 
It might be wise, worthwhile, to know which solenoid they replace that you can later do a mod, provide a biasing current, should the condition return.

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