Last post on Oct 17, 2011 at 4:34 AM
You are in the Volvo V70
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Volvo XC70, Volvo V70, Volvo V70 R, Wagon
#371 of 390 Re: window etch dealer charge [mvosburgh]
Sep 12, 2009 (6:12 pm)
"Gee, I don't think I should have to be part of your insurance plan."
"Gee, I don't think I want to do business with a dealership that is in such a marginal area of our town"
#372 of 390 Re: Why don't they sell more XC70s? [kyfdx]
Sep 19, 2009 (3:24 pm)
You are basically correct.
#373 of 390 Re: Why don't they sell more XC70s? [volvomax]
by kyfdx@Edmunds HOST
Sep 20, 2009 (5:52 am)
Thanks, max... now, say that again a little louder... so my wife can hear you..
#374 of 390 Re: window etch dealer charge [mvosburgh]
Sep 23, 2009 (12:44 pm)
AAA does it for $25. Tell them you will give them $30.
#375 of 390 Re: Why don't they sell more XC70s? [volvomax]
Sep 23, 2009 (1:24 pm)
Volvomax -- saw a Xc70 yesterday and have it on my list. Have two years left on my murano lease. Nice car but a wagon may suit us better. Hyothetically -- if I were to negotiate a deal with you for a new/low mile used unit in 2011 and drove to texas to get it -- could I trade in the murano if i had a month left on the lease? Sign the papers and drive back home with a few stopovers for golf?
#376 of 390 Re: Why don't they sell more XC70s? [kyfdx]
Sep 30, 2009 (9:52 am)
>My take on it? Women hate station wagons, and love SUVs.. If it rides up high like a truck, you can sell almost any piece of crap... but, if it rides a little lower and looks like a wagon, you can't give it away.. big seller. The new one isn't selling b/c (1) quality issues and (2) stupid design. By stupid design, I don't mean the style, which is very nice...a nice update. Instead I mean that that they made it 400 lbs heaver and gave it a less useful engine, while decreasing space. What were they thinking?
2007 MPG 18 / 25
2009 MPG 15 / 23
More power...same torque, but look at the RPMs needed to make it. This is one reason for the MPG hit.
Horsepower 208 5000 RPM 235 6200 RPM
Torque (lb-ft) 236 1500 RPM 236 3200 RPM
While folks at BMW were making a 5 series that was bigger, roomier and lighter weight, the Volvo got smaller and heavier. Take that, add quality issues with the new model, and you have a sales problem.
#377 of 390 glad to find a place like this
Oct 13, 2009 (3:13 pm)
My sister and I were on vacation in Washington DC when our beautiful V70 required its scheduled maintenance. Being on vacation, we debated whether to trust a dealer other than our own with out beloved V70. We decided to try Fairfax rosenthal Volvo came in without an appointment expecting to be turned away and end up with nothing, but we were surprised. They got our V70 in and we even got a loaner car, a rarity among other Volvo dealers considering very few dealers even have loaners anymore. Our car was done quickly and we picked it up the next day. In addition, we walked around Fairfax Volvo's sun-filled showroom and admired models newer than ours, we came back from our vocation in compelete high spirits and ready to tackle the world.
#378 of 390 Re: Why don't they sell more XC70s? [slance66]
Nov 01, 2009 (6:40 pm)
The new XC70's may not be selling as well as expected but to blame it on fractional (e.g, less than an inch) differences in leg room doesn't make much sense. Rather we can look to a world wide recession that has hit the Volvo demographic fairly hard. (What the Volvo demographic? Probably college educated couples in their mid 30's to 50's working in white collar jobs other than financial services and medicine. How am I doing, Volvomax?)
We might also look to a shift in brand emphasis. Volvo must find it hard to claim the safety "space" since it probably is no safer than any other electronic stabilizer equipped mid range car. So, what is left? Scandanavian design and packaging, coupled with some decent pricing.
We have a new 2009 and enjoy it a lot. For the money these things can't be beat.
#379 of 390 Re: Why don't they sell more XC70s? [blckislandguy]
Apr 01, 2010 (7:39 am)
Is anyone still posting here?
I am tentatively in the market for a new car, have driven the XC70 (which the salesman was really pushing) and want to drive the XC60 as well. What's stopping me from pulling the trigger - mileage, plain and simple. The poster above who talked about the difference in mileage between the '07s and the '09s hit the nail on the head. We have a 10 year old Maxima GLE that gets about 20 around town, 26 or 27 on the highway. I don't want to trade into a new car that gets worse mileage than the old car.
I wish Volvo did better with their mileage across their lineup. Only their V50 and V70 come close to my old Maxima in mileage, but I did not like the delayed throttle response that seems to be typical of their wagons.
#380 of 390 Re: Why don't they sell more XC70s? [biancar]
Apr 01, 2010 (9:54 pm)
I am still here but haven't posted. I have the 08 and it just turned over 10,000 miles (We bought it new a year ago. It was left on the lot for some reason but we got a great deal). If you look at the weight difference between the XC70 and any other car close to it, the XC is heavy! That is the killer in the gas mileage. My wife has about a mile to work and that kills the MPG's (14-15) but on the hiway, I tend to be a lightweight and I can get 22-25 MPG at 65 to 70. I do not consider this bad for what you are getting. I do put in the "better" gas as suggested and it boosts the MPG's slightly but I don't want the computer to be muting it all the time. I tend to be a penny pincher and I would not have bought it but my wife absolutely adores it (Don't get me wrong, I really like it also but I'm more of a Jeep/Corvette guy). When I bought it, I saw over and over, "you bought a premium luxury car, treat it as such, give it the gas it was meant for (If you are worrying about $5 per fill up you shouldn't buy it) and expect maintenance and repair to be expensive. If you don't want to follow it don't buy it. If you want MPG's and space, the Traverse from Chevy seems to give you it all. If you want a unique, cool, upscale wagon, buy the Volvo.