Last post on Dec 07, 2013 at 1:21 PM
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#3460 of 3627 Re: 2013 Limited. [xwesx]
Feb 14, 2013 (12:55 pm)
#3461 of 3627 Re: 2013 Limited. [ateixeira]
Feb 14, 2013 (8:16 pm)
Wait, wait... it's got a bit more options than I thought.
Forester X Limited MSRP $26,995 + Auto Dim Mirror/Compass with Homelink $292 + Body side Molding Kit $252 + All Weather Floor Mats $72 + Rear Bumper Cover $92 + Rear Spoiler $386 (this is nuts) + Splash Guard Kit $147. With destination charge of $795, total MSRP is $29,031. I paid almost 27K, average for my zipcode according to truecar.com. After $2,500 trade in + $2,700 insurance check + $1,400 Subaru Bucks, tax, etc. ended up financing the balance of 22k, 63 months, 0%. Quite happy overall.
In terms of equipment, phenomenally little is changed between this 2013 Forester and my 2002 Forester S with Premium Leather package. The 2013 has extra some safety options, bluetooth, audio controls on steering wheel, HD radio, ipod connectivity, and that's about it. It loses the CD changer (1 disc only), casette player (obsolete even in 2002). Much more room in the rear seat, much worse handling, seems cheaper inside. Drivetrain seems very similar, as it actually is almost the same with only minor changes to the motor. Fortunately visibility remains very good. I have a tire tread gauge, and I measured the tire tread - it's only 8/32"! If this trend of "shaving" the tires continues, soon you will have to buy new tires 3 months after you buy the car!
#3462 of 3627 2013 Forester 2.5x Alloy pkg
Feb 14, 2013 (8:34 pm)
20,754 sale price
+499 doc fee
+124 title/registration fee
+622 sales tax NC 3%
Second deal on table:
Forester 2.5x Limited, sticker 28.299. Worked them down to 26,000 out the door (NC 3% sales tax included).
Hope this detail helps anyone get a great deal on 2013 Forester 2.5x with alloy pkg or the Limited. I did not get the Limited because the diff, as you see, was $4,000 for stuff I don't need that I think won't last.
#3463 of 3627 Re: 2013 Limited. [daniell]
Feb 15, 2013 (6:55 am)
only minor changes to the motor
While I would like to see DI and maybe a tad more power, at least it's a timing chain now. The oil filter is also super easy to access, if you change oil yourself. MPG crept up a tad.
#3464 of 3627 Re: 2013 Limited. [ateixeira]
Feb 15, 2013 (9:36 am)
Minor changes in the configuration of the stuff under the hood, but the motor itself is significantly different, and all in good ways.
The only thing I miss about pre-2009 Foresters is the far better handling (and steering feel as part of that). Everything else on the 09-13 generation is heads above.
#3465 of 3627 Re: 2013 Limited. [xwesx]
Feb 15, 2013 (10:31 am)
No coolant flow through the head gasket being among those significant differences.
#3466 of 3627 oil filter relocated
Feb 15, 2013 (5:08 pm)
Wow, the best feature I see new since my 2009 forester is that the new one (2013) has the oil filter right on top of the engine, next to the oil filler cap. I change the oil because I want it done right and want to use synth, and now I can get rid of the ramps and never go underneath again.
#3467 of 3627 Re: oil filter relocated [zilch]
Feb 15, 2013 (5:59 pm)
Well, I suppose that's true if you want to suck the old oil out the dipstick tube, but it still seems easier to me just to pull the plug (or, better yet, put a Fumoto valve on it the first time you change the oil) and drain it. The Forester sits up high enough that you don't even need ramps if you have the valve.
I hate the location of the filter on the '09-10 units, with the exhaust pipe wrapped around it.
#3468 of 3627 Re: 2013 Forester 2.5x Alloy pkg [zilch]
Feb 16, 2013 (11:45 am)
yeah, a little excited there, about the filter on top. thanks for the tip on the fumoto plug - I assume that is the good one. We just got her the 2.5x alloy pkg almost identical. Even better than being easy, oil changes will be so much cleaner.
#3469 of 3627 Re: oil filter relocated [xwesx]
Feb 16, 2013 (11:41 am)
Man, good point. With a Fumoto valve I bet you could change the oil in the amount of time it takes to drain the old oil out, just about. Would be incredibly easy!