Last post on Nov 17, 2011 at 6:49 PM
You are in the Scion tC
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Scion tC, Scion xB, Scion xA, Fuel Efficiency (MPG)
#483 of 507 Re: 05 TC MPG [cherishzm]
Jul 15, 2008 (4:15 am)
>"Please try to do the same thing as I did and I believe you'll see the similar result. 20% increase in MPG will make a big difference at the pump when you consider $4 gallon gas price these days. "
Another way to look at it, is that you are now paying $4.00 per gallon to go a given distance. Where before you were effectively paying 20% more, or $4.80 per gallon to go the same distance.
Nothing says you can't "Red Line" it occasionally, for the "Fun" factor. Then have a second fun factor of beating the EPA sticker.
#484 of 507 go faster, longer
Aug 30, 2008 (3:24 pm)
I have noticed that with ethenol added to the gas that I use to buy, I was getting 29 mpg in my Xa automatic. Gas without ethenol gives me 32 miles per gallon, and that is with the air conditioner on all day. When gas prices were 3.00 a gallon and getting 30 mpg...did you know that is a cost of .10 per mile. I dont know what I would do with a car that got 15 mpg. It's also fun leaving vehicles 3 times bigger then mine in my mirror leaving stop lights. Zipping around the city does not mean giving up gas mileage.
#485 of 507 Update 2008 xB 5-speed MPG
Jun 14, 2009 (7:27 am)
I've begun driving my 2009 xB with manual tranny on a 120 mile daily commute. 75% highway driving average speed 65 mph on the freeways, with some occasional stop and go (this is Washington DC area after all). I've been consistently getting 30-32 mpg, and this is with the AC on. It's not as good as my Corolla (which got nearly 40 mpg), but decent for a car this size.
#486 of 507 Re: Update 2008 xB 5-speed MPG [dave594]
by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Jun 14, 2009 (8:28 am)
Probably the aerodynamics are dragging down your MPG numbers. I have noticed on the xA and xBs that as soon as you go above 65 mph, the MPG starts to drop noticeably.
Sep 03, 2009 (5:07 pm)
I found out long ago (I have 94K on my 2006 xA) that if you increase the air pressure your MPG will go up significantly. I am running 38 all around. I have my tires rotated and balance every 5k and I have 40K on the tires with no abnormal wear. Yes, the ride is more "bumpy", but you'll smile more at the pump!!
Sep 06, 2009 (8:14 am)
New '09 xD automatic. First tank was 29 mixed driving. Several tanks later...latest mpg was 31+ with AC and 75+ highway speeds + city miles.
#489 of 507 Re: mpg [Mr_Shiftright]
Nov 19, 2009 (12:52 am)
Hi, I also have a 2006 xA with 36K mi. I bought it recently and I believe the dealer change the oil and filters. Yet I am not getting more than 240mi per tank/10.28 gal. I drove to East Stroudsburg from NYC and after 240 I needed to put more gas. Do you think this is normal? I expected at least 340 for this small car. My ex has a 6cyl 2005 Subaru Legacy and with 12 gal I've driven 400 miles. That is ~330 for 10gal, in a 6cyl car. What do you suggest? Should I check if the oil filter needs to be emptied out a little bit? Thank you for your help in advance.
#490 of 507 Re: mpg [joseph07]
by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Nov 19, 2009 (8:28 am)
Well first off please excuse me but I find it really hard to believe that a 3.0 Subaru can achieve 33+ mpg, because that is 75% higher than it is rated to get. (EPA rating is 20 mpg) It's not my intention to be critical or to question your math skills, only to introduce the following suggestion:
You really have to calculate mpg based on a number of fills-ups, not just one trip. Doing it for just one trip can be wildly inaccurate, because of variation in fill up technique, blends of gas, how the car sits, how fast you are driving that day, etc.
Also, you may recall that many people here have mentioned that once little Scion engine gets over 65 mph, the gas mileage drops like a rock.
So I'd say calculate at least 5-6 fillups and let us know how it's going.
#491 of 507 EPA and MPG inaccuracy
Nov 19, 2009 (12:28 pm)
I have read your comment and thank you. Just to clarify, I drove in my ex's car to at least 4 different places this year and believe or not I calculated the amount of miles I got on each trip. From The Bronx to Washington, or to Pennsylvania, Virginia, Tennessee and Toronto I could calculate at least 340 gal each time I filled up the tank. Now, the reason I made this comparison is because I believed my Scion would let me go to East Stroudsburg (~110mi) and come back with only one tank. Well it didn't and I had to fill it up when I reached Fort Lee, NJ. I just put 10.5 gal after having put 10.28 last November 11. That is just one week for 225 mi driving from my house to Manhattan and a couple of times to Yonkers.
I understand how MPG works, but you don't have to be a savvy to understand that by zeroing your odometer seeing that is has measured 225 mi when is time to put gas again this means your tank only gave you that amount for the 10.2 gallons you put the last time and in just 8 days. But I will make sure I do a couple of fueling to be able to provide you with more accurate information.
One more thing, is it possible that when the filters were changed they were set to be filled up with a ratio higher than what's recommended?
#492 of 507 Re: EPA and MPG inaccuracy [joseph07]
by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Nov 19, 2009 (2:52 pm)
I have no idea why the Subaru should exceed EPA estimates by nearly 100%. I guess driving it a certain way could do that---I dunno what to say. Subarus are notorious gas hogs for their engine size, as a rule--especially the 3.0. So what I'm saying is that don't judge your Scion by this rather miraculous result. It's some kind of anomaly.
Regarding the Scion--one thing to keep in mind is that these little cars are geared (in the transaxle gearing) for acceleration, not for top speed. They are, in other words, not a "long-legged" car. This is why the 65mph + penalty kicks in.