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#38 of 77
front wheels dont pull in 4x4 by simplesimon3
Dec 06, 2007 (6:49 pm)
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I have a 04 dakota 4.7v8 that doesn't seem to stay fully engaged in 4x4.
When I select 4h or 4L on the dash it shifts into gear fine
sometimes with a clunk.
But when I romp on it in 4x4 it makes a clunking sound
like two gears grinding.
Has anyone had this problem and
could someone tell me if it
could be the transfer case shift motor, or the chain?
  
thanks
#39 of 77
4x4 not working by osato638
Dec 09, 2007 (5:15 pm)
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I bought a 98 dakota sport yesterday, it has 240000 km on it a 3 inch body lift and its 4x4. The 4x4 is not engagaing when shifted into 4 hi, it is a standard and has floor shift 4x4. The truck makes an unbelievably loud grinding sound like two gears slightly missing when you give it gas in 4x4. The light is on in the dash indicating it is engaged but the sound leads me to believe otherwise. I am wondering if it is due to the body lift or maybe linkage. This is my first dodge experience and the truck is being repaired for my better half. Any info greatly appreciated.
#40 of 77
Re: 4x4 not working [osato638] by bpeebles
Dec 09, 2007 (7:42 pm)
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Replying to: osato638 (Dec 09, 2007 5:15 pm)

This could be a mis-adjusted linkage or worse.... I beleive each of the wheels also has a vacuum-powered enguagement.
 
You really need to ascertain if it is the xfer case which is not fully enguaging.... or the front wheels.
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re: transfer case by osato638
Dec 12, 2007 (6:35 pm)
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i lifted the truck, all 4 wheels spin when the 4x4 is engaged. The wheels spin smoothly at idle speed but when the truck is accelerated there is a loud banging and grinding sound, the wheels remain spinning. The sound definately seems to come from transfer case area, truck does the same in 4 lo as well. Thank you for replying.
#42 of 77
4wd orange indicator light by njdevil2
Dec 16, 2007 (5:06 pm)
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I bought my truck used , its an 04 Dakota Club Cab 4.7 V8 and just recently when i went to use my 4wd i noticed that the indicator light for 2 wheel turned off as normal and the one for 4 wheel hi just went to a solid orange light right away instead of flashing between the orange and green and then going to a solid green as it did the first time i had used it. Any ideas of why this would happen , or how it can be resolved?? the 4 wheel still seems to work which is leaving me confused.
 
            Thanks All
                    Steve
#43 of 77
Ratchety 4wd by snowman102185
Dec 17, 2007 (8:33 pm)
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Don't really have a good word to describe it, but when I put my 2001 Dakota into 4wd and crank the wheels it doesn't want to go, like something is holding it up, give it some gas and it jerks forward a little bit then locks up again. It doesn't seem to matter which direction I turn the wheels. The shop said it was probably in the transfer case but I want to hear if there are any little tricks that you guys have found out about these to try.
#44 of 77
Re: Ratchety 4wd [snowman102185] by bpeebles
Dec 19, 2007 (6:14 pm)
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Replying to: snowman102185 (Dec 17, 2007 8:33 pm)

That is TOTALLY NORMAL for a 4-wheel-drive vehicle. While locked into 4WD, you should NEVER try to turn the steering wheel very much.
 
The phyisics behind it is that when locked into 4WD, all the wheels are essentually LOCKED TOGETHER. When you try to turn sharply, the OUTSIDE wheels need to spin faster than the INSIDE wheels to keep up... this causes the driveline to "wrap up" and you feel that walking sensation. (as if the front wheels are trying to take steps) There is a HUGE amount of torque built up in the driveline when the wheels are locked together but need to spin at different speeds.... SOMTHING will eventually snap.
 
That is why the owners manual says to NOT USE 4WD on dry pavement. You are lucky you have not ripped a driveshaft out from under your truck!!
 
If your "shop" does not understand this phenomen about a 4WD... run away from them fast!
 
4WD is only really useful in a STRAIGHT LINE and can actually cause you to slide off the road in the snow if you are not prepared for the effects of the wheels being locked together around a corner. Also, NEVER use 4WD above 40 MPH... you can get killed if you do not undersand the physics of a 4WD system at those speeds.
#45 of 77
05 Lock-outs??? by markr1695
Dec 30, 2007 (8:02 pm)
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I love everthing about my 2005 Dakota except the gas mileage (around 17.5 combined). Would manual lockouts on the front hubs help? If so where can you get them?
#46 of 77
Re: 05 Lock-outs??? [markr1695] by bpeebles
Dec 31, 2007 (11:57 am)
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Replying to: markr1695 (Dec 30, 2007 8:02 pm)

That would be a lot of $$ and time for little return.
 
I was able to push my Dakota from about 18MPG to over 21MPG by simply changing all gearcase fluids from dino-oil to synthetic Red Line lubes.
 
This included changing the following fluids.
*)Front Differential
*)Rear Differential
*)Xfer Case
*)Manual Xmission
*)Power Steering
 
Since Red Line lubricants are true Polyol Ester synthetic fluids, they are far superiour to most other so-called synthetics. (and also more expensive due to the cost of Polyol Ester basestock)
 
There are several reasons for the increase of MPG.... including
1)Less Friction
2)Less gear-churn reduces wasted power (thinner oil still provides better protection!)
 
A bonus is that I will NEVER EVER have to change these fluids again because of the superiour protection provided by the Red Line lubricants.
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Re: 05 Lock-outs??? [bpeebles] by markr1695
Jan 01, 2008 (8:53 pm)
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Replying to: bpeebles (Dec 31, 2007 11:57 am)

Thanx a bunch for your quick response. Did you have change seals as well?

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