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#1910 of 2418
I just came back from Metro Honda.... by djsg143
Dec 11, 2008 (11:32 am)
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And the F&I guy went into it with me that:
 
1) The cancellation might adversely affect my rate since I am a tier 2 (720 credit score) customer and at his discretion he lowered my rate with the purchase of a 1950 Honda care warranty...
 
2) I would not be able to buy this exact same plane further down the road and the coverage would not be as good.
 
I was almost swayed but held my ground because times are tough and paying 7.99% on 2k over 5 years for a product I may never use didn't seem right.
 
He said fine, I filled out my section of the cancellation request, he said he would put it in for me in the afternoon, told me that if they cancelled the $2k would go against the principal and that it may affect the rate/payment and he would call me to let me know
 
is this last part true??? I was expecting the total financed amount to lower (from $19k to 17) and the monthly payment to lower as a result. Also are there any other tricks they may have up their sleeves I should be worried about? ....I thank both posts earlier and hope that someone can continue to provide advice.
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Re: So I got fit yesterday.... [dhectorg] by taximom5
Dec 11, 2008 (12:03 pm)
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Replying to: dhectorg (Dec 11, 2008 8:41 am)

Last I heard, by federal law, you have THREE DAYS to cancel the whole deal.
 
Which is exactly what I would do if I were you. Bring the car back, tell them you want your money back--and they have to take the car and give you your money back..
 
Tell them why, too--tell them that it is because they were dishonest. Tell them that you will give Honda a documented letter explaining how disgusted you are with this dealership.
 
And then LEAVE and don't ever go back. Try another dealership. Heck, try a different car.
 
At this time of year, they WANT to sell, and it should be no trouble in this economy to find a car.
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I Feel Your Pain by sandman46
Dec 11, 2008 (12:05 pm)
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Sorry to hear about what happened and felt the same kind of pressure 3 weeks ago when buying our daughters 1st car...they pushed us to buy everything in the closing room but we stuck to our guns and declined everything...politely. Felt a change in his attitude after that but hey, I'll never see this F&I guy again. Unless we buy the Elantra for our other daughter.
When I bought my Civic back in '06, that guy was really high pressure and pushed the extended warranty. He got kinda flustered when I mentioned the supposed quality that Honda's are supposed to have so why buy the warranty. Also in Florida, we can't buy a warranty online so we get hosed on the price. So far, car's been great except for some warranty issues which have been taken care of very professionally.
Good luck and hope it all works out!
 
The Sandman
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Re: So I got fit yesterday.... [taximom5] by kyfdx HOST
Dec 11, 2008 (12:08 pm)
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Replying to: taximom5 (Dec 11, 2008 12:03 pm)

There is no 3 day right of recission on car deals..
 
But, they can't change your rate based on whether you purchase an extended warranty, or not.. Actually, if they want to change your rate, that would be your opportunity to refuse to sign another contract and return the car.
 
Since you just signed the contract yesterday, they should be willing to re-write it, without the warranty. But, if they won't, he is correct, the warranty amount will be sent to the bank, and that will shorten your term, but not change your payment. That's because you financed the warranty.
 
You were right to go back and cancel the warranty.. the price was outrageous. You can buy the same warranty on-line for much less, and you have up to 6 months and 6000 miles to do so, before the price goes up.
 
Sounds like a sleazy place to do business..
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Dealers Selling at Invoice in MD by beach57
Dec 11, 2008 (2:23 pm)
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I contacted several local dealers two weeks ago to inquire about pricing on the 09 Fit with Navi. All said they are selling at MSRP and would not go any lower. Two weeks later, four dealers are now willing to sell at invoice price and actually have numerous cars sitting on their lots that are unsold. I live in the Baltimore-Washington area of MD. I assume this is due to the slowdown in car sales. Anyone else buying at invoice price now?
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Re: Dealers Selling at Invoice in MD [beach57] by fitisgo
Dec 12, 2008 (11:44 am)
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Replying to: beach57 (Dec 11, 2008 2:23 pm)

The Omaha, NE, area has 3 Honda dealers. The 2008 models all sold out and there was a real shortage for a couple months, when the 2009s arrived. When the 09s first showed up, they were selling at MSRP and the dealers couldn't keep them in stock. Now that the national economic crisies has arrived, sales are way down, inventories on the lots are way up (cars that used to be sold before they rolled off the delivery truck are now sitting for days/weeks), and, I suspect, prices are back down to Invoice, which is about what I paid for my 08 Sport automatics in Dec 2007, Mar 2008, and Jun 2008. If you are a cash buyer (no financing or your own independent financing) with no trade, you are in a very good position to get a new 09 Fit for a great price.
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Re: So I got fit yesterday.... [taximom5] by djsg143
Dec 12, 2008 (2:01 pm)
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Replying to: taximom5 (Dec 11, 2008 12:03 pm)

the update:
 
The F&I guy called late last night to tell me the "good news" that I could cancel the warranty and not affect the rate.
 
just like you mentioned , the monthly payment will stay the same, a fact I confirmed with Honda care over the phone.
 
However when I called Honda, they had no record of my vin...perhaps it is to soon so I will wait till monday to see.
 
The F&I guy did request that I bring in 2 pay stubs and 4 references which makes no sense to me to ask for 2 days after the sale and a signed contract....what is his possible angle here? I will also wait till monday to give this to him so I can run it by you all and others to see if there is some possible harm in giving him this.
 
i admit it was a shady place to do business and if i could do it again i would at the dealership my uncle got his 09 from....you live and you learn i guess.
 
now I am wondering what to do about the center console.....I ordered it and the price and installation is part of the financed amount....stupid I know, but I really wanted the center console...but its been a few days and I still haven't gotten a call about it....can and should I cancel it, have the amount refunded and order one online?
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Re: I just came back from Metro Honda.... [djsg143] by dhectorg
Dec 12, 2008 (7:00 pm)
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Replying to: djsg143 (Dec 11, 2008 11:32 am)

there is no 3 day return guarantee, but your rate CANNOT be changed! whatever rate your credit score qualifies you for is your rate, regardless of price or add-ons. as another poster suggested, if they persist on adjusting your rate up, you can cancel the entire deal...because that is fraud.
this will work out for you, as long as you hold your own! do your thing!
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Re: So I got fit yesterday.... [djsg143] by absconfused
Dec 12, 2008 (9:32 pm)
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Replying to: djsg143 (Dec 12, 2008 2:01 pm)

I am just giving my two cents here but it sounds like the guy did not do his job if he did not have your pay stubs prior to closing this deal! Heck, I would go in and tell them you want a refund! I once returned a Toyota....cars can be returned. It is not easy and I am not saying it can be done often or easily, but if you focus on something, frequently you can make it happen.
 
You just need to find the the angle of what the injustice was and stay on it until you feel like you cannot fight anymore...I am now wondering if they had some computer program showing fake credit scores! I would look into this angle. I know credit scores can vary from the three agencies but still, did they tell you which agency they used? You could check with that agency (just pay for the report, it will be worth it) and find out what your score was that day. Who knows? You could crack open a huge case of them misleading the public with artificially deflated credit scores...there are so many games that can be tried out by a dishonest dealership. I do not believe most are dishonest, but the few dirty ones can be very dirty.
 
This whole deal smells funny. It's not the price you paid that's the problem b/c we all learn from our experience....it is everything...the credit score discrepency, the throwing in of the warranty in a deceptive manner, etc etc..And you can cancel the armrest since they have not called you...Years ago I did that with lojack...it's nuts, they take your money and it takes months to get the stuff!! Unreal!
 
People say I am a bulldog b/c when someone wrongs me, I sacrafice a lot of my time, energy, and sanity to seek justice either by phone calls, letter writing, or small claims court. I have been known to sit in law libraries for days...This transaction is weighing on you and I think you need to look closely at each issue and work on it...The more you uncover, the better your case will be for returning the car but if you find that they lied about your credit, you would have them big time!
 
Well, good luck and just remember that at the end of the day, the extra money you spent over the amount you would have liked to spend is not earth changing or life changing and it is valuable experience for the next deal. I am soooo much different now than I was years ago on my first car. It's very hard to find your voice in a dealership, which is why it is best to find a dealership who will agree to terms before you walk in....they want to sell cars, they can at least firm up a deal before you come...something that everyone can live with. This approach works but not with every dealership but you find one that it works with and you promise yourself you will walk right out if they try and change the terms...
 
Anyway, take care, good luck, and seek justice if you have been wronged in any way.
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Re: So I got fit yesterday.... [taximom5] by isellhondas
Dec 13, 2008 (4:14 pm)
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Replying to: taximom5 (Dec 11, 2008 12:03 pm)

This old rumor keeps coming up.
 
As the others have said there is no 3 day right of recession on cars.
 
This applies to solicited sales such a door to door vacuum cleaner sales or a time share. Not cars,

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