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Replying to: taximom5 (Jun 18, 2008 9:17 am) Sometimes I really have to work hard to disarm people. They have to feel comfortable dealing with me. Probably as a result of a previous bad experience somewhere else.
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Replying to: isellhondas (Jun 18, 2008 9:21 am) Really, if one Honda store is having a great month and doesn't need to make a sale and is up to its armpits in trade-in's, you can't really blame them if they are unenthusiastic. A Honda store 40 miles north may roll the red carpet out for you last few days of the month if they are behind, and make you a great deal. And yes they trades are lowballed sometimes like most dealers. I've read peoples accounts of their excellent buying experience, noting how it only took a half hour to buy and sign and staff's excellent conduct. (they got screwed to the tune of 4000 or more on the price and trade in). I've read of (and witnessed)other's accounts of walking on a killer $40000 deal (great trade in, great price-- this dealer obviously needed the sale) after 3 hours over some floor mats. Go figure --jjf I agree with you. Sometimes I really have to work hard to disarm people. They have to feel comfortable dealing with me. Probably as a result of a previous bad experience somewhere else.
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I did a lot of research on the Internet and test drives. I looked at the prius, nissan versa, toyota yaris, toyota matrix / pontiac vibe, Scion XD, honda civic, and VW Rabbit. With the hybrids it would take 18 years to pay off the $8,000 price difference using the gas money saved if I do 12,000 miles a year and gas is $4.00. I looked at Price, gas mileage, safety, reliability, performance, and what all is included with the car (alloy wheels, power package, ipod hookup, sun roof, etc.) The best bang for the buck came down to the Honda fit and it drove quite well, so I bought it. Just to let you know, not all prices are over MSRP. I went with this one because it was the best price. I did all negotiations on the internet and phone, then went to pick up the car. It took just over an hour to fill out all the paperwork and drive off the lot. The honda dealership that I worked with treated me with respect and had everything ready for me including the newly washed and detailed car. It was my first honda purchase (besides my 1985 honda spree 50cc scooter), and they did not put me in the torture chamber to add on an extended warranty (which I declined). 2008 New Automatic Honda Fit Sport Sales Price - $15,709 Tax (6% - PA) and tags and all fees $1,115 No Trade in - N/A Out the door 16,824 Car drives nice, I like the cruise control. Complaints so far- (just bought on 6-17-08) Not much room for your left foot. I removed the back seat headrests, so I can see out the back window, and the back seats will fold down now with out hitting the front seats. How will this affect safety for my passengers? My portable GPS is far away from me because of the windshield angle, and the suction cup on the stand does not stick to the flat part of the dashboard any suggestions? I am thinking about putting a piece of plexiglass on the dashboard above the A/C vent. But I don't want to tape the plexiglass to the dashboard.
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Replying to: jfritsch (Jun 19, 2008 12:46 am)  And the most important message is Toyota has lied to me, misled me, trapped me in their dealerships and tried switch and baits..In Atlanta, this is the most disreputable nameplate I could find!!! If anyone wants to know specifics you can eamil me but I will tell you this, if you want a Toyota or think you want a Toyota be sure you know every spec you want like ABS, alloy wheels etc and then go try and find a car with those features!!! Stay focused on what it is you want and do not fall for them trying to sell you something else b/c it would be cheaper....They are a complete nightmare....Believe me most Honda dealers would never think of acting the way the Toyota people act and they do not have to b/c they properly equip their cars so they do not have to pretend that they are out of something or spend hours searching for something that they know they do not have just to wear you down or dump you on the next level person of their scam. And, BTW a car I test drove fit like a glove but the way they act and their missing features in Atlanta, NO WAY. I will never step foot into another Toyota dealer. You might not notice this about Toyota if you are not looking for something specific like if you do not care about ABS breaks (they lied and told me they were on the car, even though not listed on the sticker!!!!)
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Replying to: absconfused (Jun 19, 2008 7:28 am) We have dealt with both toyota and honda dealers in our search and have found good and not good folks in both camps. I have picked out my honda dealer to work with when its time . We had a great experience with the toyota dealer (got there via the internet dealing). What I have said to both is "what goes around comes around" I'm not tough to deal with but I don't deal with super pushy, deliberatly inaccurate information or disrespect. The toyota dealer who did right by us has already had two serious buyers contact them per our recommendation.
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So far I guess people can't see what the problem is. Mine is that I don't like being ripped off by the Honda dealer. If it was the Toyota dealer I wouldn't like it any better. The local Honda dealer 5 months ago was begging for customers. Well now that I want to buy another they have decided to stick it to me with their prices. In the end a car sold even at MSRP is going to lose money when the prices all come down, which they will. The more fuel efficient cars that are out there the more competition. Then back to decent prices again. I don't care how great the new showroom is, I don't work there. I don't care how many trucks the dealer took in trade or didn't sell and wants to recoup the loss by overcharging me. I care about how good a deal I am getting on the car I want to buy. I also don't want to get my post removed as happens so often when you debate with certain car salespeople. I will wait for the new Fit and see what else becomes available as well. No loyalty rewards for Honda so I might as well shop around. |
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Replying to: tiff_c (Jun 20, 2008 7:55 am) On this particular car though the sales prices are usually for above msrp to about 600 off. (selling for the arbitrary number called "invoice"). A perusal of the prices paid for the last 18 months or so will show the market is pretty tight for it. A used 07 fit has a trade in value (kbb.com)of almost 13000 for a 16700 msrp car, so the printed prices on the sticker aren't too far off from what the market is for it. If you want the only canary yellow fit within 300 miles and the dealer is flush for the month you may have to pay over msrp. In a world where people are $12000 underwater and refinancing a loan from an suv for a 30 mpg car getting upset over $400 when the car sells within about a 700 range anyway is silly. Many were getting the 08 Nissan Versa SL MSRP 16700 for about 14000, the S for 12500, and the Pontiac Vibe (19500) and Matrix with auto pwr and alloys for about 15k and change. You may be able to do in the low 17s on an 09 vibe or matrix now or soon. Perhaps not, things are a lot different from 5 months ago. The $4.00 price point on gas made many go batty (like many research firms predicted) and sales for 30mpg vehicles shot up. There are lotsa different cars. No forcing to buy a Fit. Good luck --jjf So far I guess people can't see what the problem is. Mine is that I don't like being ripped off by the Honda dealer. If it was the Toyota dealer I wouldn't like it any better. The local Honda dealer 5 months ago was begging for customers. Well now that I want to buy another they have decided to stick it to me with their prices. In the end a car sold even at MSRP is going to lose money when the prices all come down, which they will. The more fuel efficient cars that are out there the more competition. Then back to decent prices again. I don't care how great the new showroom is, I don't work there. I don't care how many trucks the dealer took in trade or didn't sell and wants to recoup the loss by overcharging me. I care about how good a deal I am getting on the car I want to buy. I also don't want to get my post removed as happens so often when you debate with certain car salespeople. I will wait for the new Fit and see what else becomes available as well. No loyalty rewards for Honda so I might as well shop around.
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Replying to: watsac (Jun 15, 2008 8:37 am) We test drove the VW Rabbit and the Toyota Yaris hatch today. He really liked the Rabbit as did I. It had plenty of power and felt solid. The Yaris felt underpowered with the three of us inside and the a/c on high. It's funny, Hagerstown Honda called and asked when we'd be coming back to buy the Fit. I laughed and stated that a starting point for our return would be for them to drop that $1700 add-on "appearance package" charge and sell us the Fit for $400 under the sticker price. I repeated the fact that I can buy teflon wax and scotch guard from WalMart and apply myself for $50. The sales person stated again that the markup was dealer mandated, but that the Hagerstown Honda would give me a "special reduction" off the markup price. I do not recommend that anyone buy a new 4 cyl Fit or Civic from Hagerstown Honda as they are adding on an extra $1700 over the sticker. In my opinion they are price gougers. |
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Hey all, I am kinda new to this. Wife wants a Honda Fit Sport Auto. So, I researched online and got quotes. Best price I got was $17K OTD. However, when I went down to the dealer, they refused it. Even the LARGEST HONDA DEALER in the world refuse to price match as they claim. I understand that the Fit is hot now. Anyone has any luck with So Ca dealers? Anything close to invoice? Thanks! Also, when are the 09s coming out??? |
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Replying to: jfritsch (Jun 20, 2008 8:30 am) Your points aren't valid in my situation but I suppose they work in general. I specified I didn't want black. That was it so that leaves a lot of cars since black is a rare color for them anyway. Also I don't care how much someone else owes. It's not my problem. If $400 is no big deal then feel free to give it to me. It certainly is a big deal for the dealer. if it wasn't why not just give me that off and why the $400 doc fee? Dealers overcharge, no matter how you spin it people that have bought cars know what dealers do. Also I was dealing with the Internet manager at the largest dealer in the State. I'll hold off and buy something else. I like Honda but won't buy at MSRP or above no matter how the situation is spun. I never pay retail, so I'm not about to start now. This car was for my wife, I am happy with my Civic Si. She really needs a car but it's not going to happen. The economy is in it's current mess because people had the attitude that it's not a big deal to overpay. We are all paying the price for that lax attitude now. The Fit isn't that great in economy as it is. It is more practical. |
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