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Honda Fit Prices Paid and Buying Experiences

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Re: Thoughts on this offered drive-away price breakdown in Atlanta? [mintju by mintjulep
May 18, 2007 (11:37 am)
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Replying to: anahita61 (May 18, 2007 11:21 am)

Hi Anahita61! I was trying to contact you directly b/c I'd noticed you were in the Atlanta area. Ed Voyles Honda gave me this price quote. I'm hitting up a few others, including Team Honda. Is that the only dealership you worked with?
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Re: Thoughts on this offered drive-away price breakdown in Atlanta? [jacksa by nascartrash
May 18, 2007 (12:12 pm)
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Replying to: mintjulep (May 18, 2007 11:35 am)

just walk away for that place any amount over 50.00 is pure dealership profit.
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Re: Thoughts on this offered drive-away price breakdown in Atlanta? [jacksa by mintjulep
May 18, 2007 (6:19 pm)
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Replying to: nascartrash (May 18, 2007 12:12 pm)

Is that true? I have two offers now, with processing fees at $500 and $600. Is it actually possible to get them to drop it down to $50 or just anywhere closer to that?
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Re: Thoughts on this offered drive-away price breakdown in Atlanta? [jacksa by maxwax
May 18, 2007 (8:10 pm)
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Replying to: mintjulep (May 18, 2007 11:35 am)

A dealer will tell you that processing fees are the costs required so that the handling of your car purchase (such as paperwork) is handled in the highest quality manner. It's BS.
 
It's just another way for a dealer to make as much money on the sale of your car as possible. It lets them discount the price of the car but then start charging you extra fees so their profit for that specific car model stays in their target range.
 
So if you negotiate $1,000 less than list price, the $400 in doc fees is pure profit, the $125, $225, and $650 profit they made on selling you additional accessories, paint protectors, rust protectors, etc, gets their per car profit back up to where it was before you got a discount.
 
In ideal car buying situations, you're [for some reason] buying a car that isn't selling in the marketplace, the dealer has plenty of them he wants to GET RID OF, and other factors are ripe for you to negotiate everything down as low as possible.
 
With the Honda Fit, it's hard to find due to low supply -- something that keeps prices up in any market for any product, its getting great reviews, causing demand to stay strong, and other factors like higher gas prices are keeping demand high. Which makes it excellent conditions for dealers to stand firm on their pricing because if you won't pay it, the next guy will.
 
I paid MSRP plus $398 dealer doc fees for my Fit. MSRP I don't mind considering it is a low price car, but paying doc fees bothered me. Had the dealer dropped those for me, I'd be naming them right now and telling you what a great experience I had.. but they didn't do anything for me so I won't do anything for them
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Re: Thoughts on this offered drive-away price breakdown in Atlanta? [jacksa by maxwax
May 18, 2007 (8:15 pm)
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Replying to: maxwax (May 18, 2007 8:10 pm)

Oh, also: Some states regulate how much dealers can *require* you to pay for documentation fees.
 
So clearly if a dealer in state X can provide high quality service with doc fees of $39, then dealers in states such as North Carolina where it is unregulated ought to be able to do the same..
 
Cars and Mattresses seem to have most sleazy salespractices I've ever seen...
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Re: Thoughts on this offered drive-away price breakdown in Atlanta? [jacksa [mintjulep] by kyfdx HOST
May 19, 2007 (6:23 am)
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Replying to: mintjulep (May 18, 2007 6:19 pm)

Don't worry about how they break out the prices... Just include any processing fee into the selling price, then decide how it looks from there..
 
GA and FL are nuts with dealer fees... but, if you insist on not paying them, you'll probably have to go out of state, as every dealer down there charges them..
 
So... hypothetically, if you consider $17,000 to be a good price for the car you want... and you know the dealer charges a $500 fee, then don't go over $16,500.. Let them call it whatever they want, as long as you get your price..
 
But.. make no mistake.. it is a way to make you think you are paying less. Just add it on to the selling price, and then see if you are still getting a good deal.
 
regards,
kyfdx
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Re: Thoughts on this offered drive-away price breakdown in Atlanta? [kyfdx] by mintjulep
May 19, 2007 (6:36 am)
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Replying to: kyfdx (May 19, 2007 6:23 am)

Thanks for the breakdown. I'm getting a pretty clear picture of how the pricing works now.
 
I have contacted eight dealerships, and they're all starting to respond. In negotiating prices and putting them head-to-head, should I mention dealerships by name or be more vague, like "I've received an offer of xxx. Can you beat that?" I'm just not sure what's kosher or expected in this game.
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Re: Thoughts on this offered drive-away price breakdown in Atlanta? [mintju by anahita61
May 19, 2007 (10:35 am)
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Replying to: mintjulep (May 18, 2007 11:37 am)

Hi mintjulep - I had a really high quote from Ed Voyles - they were over the MSRP and added on a thousand dollars just because. I have it written down if you want me to look up exactly what they wanted from me. That was back when I was going to have order the exact car I wanted - I was insistent on the manual transmission. I ALMOST ordered it through them when the Internet Sales Manager at Team Honda said she had found the Silver Sport MT and was having it brought to her dealership. She had the MSRP and the doc fee, and nothing else but tax and title. Not that crazy extra thousand dollars.
 
I also talked to Gwinnett Honda, and some others (I think about four dealers altogether), and I went with Team Honda because of the Internet Sales Manager. She was great! Really low pressure, straight forward sales. Of course once I was in the dealership to buy the car the finance manager was the opposite, so the experience was not great, but I'm still thrilled with my Silver Sport MT!
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Re: Thoughts on this offered drive-away price breakdown in Atlanta? [mintju by mintjulep
May 22, 2007 (11:02 am)
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Replying to: anahita61 (May 19, 2007 10:35 am)

Hi Anahita61! What was your OTD price with Team Honda? They actually called me and hung up on me, and we have not reconnected since then. I'm in touch with about four dealerships, but most are giving me the roundabout b/c I want a price for July and they don't seem to want to negotiate unless it's the month of.
 
Ed Voyles didn't seem to tack on any monstrous extra fees out of nowhere, but they won't go down to the OTD price I've gotten from another dealer. I've been working with internet sales for all dealerships since I'm out of town right now, and it's been pretty good so far. Some are straightforward whereas others are beating around the bush like mad. The biggest problem is that most are hesitant to give me a solid quote till July. I didn't think a two-month headstart would be that much to ask for.
 
I'll update once I've set a deposit...hopefully for a vivid pearl blue Sport MT!
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Re: Thoughts on this offered drive-away price breakdown in Atlanta? [mintju by anahita61
May 22, 2007 (11:28 am)
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Replying to: mintjulep (May 22, 2007 11:02 am)

I wonder what were the circumstances involved in Team Honda hanging up on you... The Internet Sales Manager there, as I've mentioned, is wonderful.
 
They charged me:
 
$15,765.00 - MSRP incl destination fee
    599.00 - absurd doc fee
    951.84 - 6% sales tax
     18.00 - title/registration fee
      3.00 - MVWR Fee (?)
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$17,336.84 - OUCH!
- 500.00 - trade-in
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$16,836.84 - still, OUCH!
 
I really wanted the Fit, it was there, the color and transmission I wanted... and oh yes, I got them to throw in some free floor mats. Small consolation.

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