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Re: So I finally got in my mom's Fit... [bobw3] by ateixeira
Sep 16, 2008 (11:40 am)
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Replying to: bobw3 (Sep 16, 2008 8:24 am)

EPA volume is very misleading, because it's very tall and wide, but not deep, so we could not fit even one single big suitcase. Not even one.
 
Basically you have to fold the seats to carry any large items at all.
 
If the items are stackable you might be able to cram it in.
 
So it's better at carrying multiple small items that are stackable vs. one single large item.
 
So basically just take two carry-on bags instead of one large suitcase. Given United is now charging $50 for your 2nd checked-in bag, this may not be a bad idea regardless of what you drive.
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Luggage space by toasterpilot
Nov 12, 2008 (6:02 pm)
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On my trip to the Outer Banks, about 2000 miles round trip, we had three adults, two suitcases, two guitar cases, a large and a small cooler, two backpacks and other assorted small bags. We put one seat down--the smaller one.
 
As crammed as it was, I could still see out the back window (for which our wiper performs intermittently) and we were still averaging 34 MPG.
 
We stopped in Asheville for a couple of days and I took an early morning trip up and down Town Mountain Road. With the electronic steering and paddle shifters, it was one of life's great thrills!
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Tire size issues by tiff_c
Nov 14, 2008 (7:44 am)
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Hi, I've finally made the plunge and have a 2009 Fit Sport Auto on order.
The only problem is the tires it comes with are 185/55R/16 and we get a ton of snow here and non snow tires are not workable.
The snow tires are 195/55R16 but no one, not the dealer nor the tire stores know if you can put that size tire on the 2009 Fit. I like to use Nokian WRG2 tires which work awesome all year round.
Does anyone have any experience with tires on their 2009 Fit Sport that are other than stock size?
Thanks
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Re: Tire size issues [tiff_c] by micweb
Nov 14, 2008 (9:11 am)
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Replying to: tiff_c (Nov 14, 2008 7:44 am)

I have never had a problem upsizing a stock tire by 10mm (185=>195, for example), it only increases the width by about 1/3 of an inch. You should check clearance if you add snow cables on top of that, which is unlikely since you will be using snow tires. For that matter I have never had a problem upsizing 20mm, although when I do that, I downsize the aspect ratio by 10 to maintain tire height, which is more of a compatibility concern.
 
You should be fine, but there are no "guarantees."
 
Try Tyre and Wheel Bible to check the effect on the odometer and speedometer, which is negligible.
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Re: Tire size issues [micweb] by tiff_c
Nov 14, 2008 (3:14 pm)
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Replying to: micweb (Nov 14, 2008 9:11 am)

I have never had a problem upsizing a stock tire by 10mm (185=>195, for example), it only increases the width by about 1/3 of an inch. You should check clearance if you add snow cables on top of that, which is unlikely since you will be using snow tires. For that matter I have never had a problem upsizing 20mm, although when I do that, I downsize the aspect ratio by 10 to maintain tire height, which is more of a compatibility concern.
You should be fine, but there are no "guarantees."

 
Well I called Honda Customer support and they were more interested in pawning the problem off on the dealer than being helpful. So I called my former dealers parts dept and they said it should be no problem at all.
The other dealer didn't want to comment on it.
It's only 10mm difference so it's not that big a deal, but lawsuits abound so I guess that's the way it is. I'm going to get the 195/55R16's and they will be my year round tire. $600 with mounting and balancing and they are a 50,000 mile snowflake rated tire. I really like these tires even in the summer.
Thanks for the advice
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Re: Tire size issues [tiff_c] by micweb
Nov 17, 2008 (9:33 am)
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Replying to: tiff_c (Nov 14, 2008 3:14 pm)

I hate this:
 
"Well I called Honda Customer support and they were more interested in pawning the problem off on the dealer than being helpful."
 
It's because Honda doesn't want to become the dealer of first and last resort. They figure they are paying the dealers to provide services like this, but then the dealers are often inconsistent and erratic.
 
Personally I think manufacturers should be allowed to open company run stores. Then the public can decide whether they like the franchised dealers or company stores better. Seems to have worked for Apple.
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Re: Tire size issues [micweb] by tiff_c
Nov 17, 2008 (8:09 pm)
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Replying to: micweb (Nov 17, 2008 9:33 am)

I hate this:
"Well I called Honda Customer support and they were more interested in pawning the problem off on the dealer than being helpful."
 
It's because Honda doesn't want to become the dealer of first and last resort. They figure they are paying the dealers to provide services like this, but then the dealers are often inconsistent and erratic.

 
Make no mistake I called them after the dealer was very non-committal and Honda was even worse.
Big mistake offering an oddball tire size! A 205/??/16 would have been far better, a bit wider but so what. Also the new Fit doesn't handle as well as the old model and I'm certain it's the tires. Mine is due in this week or early next.
The dealers should know but who can you call when they don't? No one, because everyone is afraid of lawsuits and Honda will not commit to a change in tire size not affecting the warranty
So you're on your own if something goes wrong and they can link it to the tires in any way.
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drivers auto down window by madams1
Nov 28, 2008 (6:18 pm)
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Took our 2008 fit in today for first oil change and asked the service guy to look at the drivers side window. The auto down feature quit working not long after we bought the car. He reset and checked once to make sure it was working and it did, but only once before I had to reset after arriving home. It seems like the reset only works one time. Just wondering if anyone else has had this problem. His reset procedure was to use the button for all down then hold 8 seconds or so then up and hold 8 seconds or so. If you hold it longer than 10 seconds it will lock you out for about 30 seconds.
Plan to call the dealer and take it back in, but will be more persistent than just a reset.
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Re: Tire size issues [micweb] by ateixeira
Dec 02, 2008 (8:20 am)
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Replying to: micweb (Nov 14, 2008 9:11 am)

It's 10mm wider but it's also 5.5mm taller.
 
You're most likely to rub (if at all) when the front wheel is turned and you hit a bump, so the suspension compresses or rebounds all the way. The tire might rub the wheel well liner, basically.
 
Still, 10mm and 5.5mm are tiny amounts. Honda must have left a little wiggle room in the wheel well.
 
I had some body work done on a Miata and they attached the wheel well liner incorrectly, so for a little while it rubbed. They fixed it, and there was no real harm to the tire or the liner, FWIW.
 
I think it would be OK. Honda is just avoiding a liability, basically, but the industry says a 3% variance is OK on tire diameter when you Plus One, for instance, and that snow tire falls within that tolerance.
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Re: Tire size issues [ateixeira] by tiff_c
Dec 03, 2008 (5:18 am)
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Replying to: ateixeira (Dec 02, 2008 8:20 am)

I think it would be OK. Honda is just avoiding a liability, basically, but the industry says a 3% variance is OK on tire diameter when you Plus One, for instance, and that snow tire falls within that tolerance.
 
I've now had another dealer tell me to buy the 205/50R/16 instead as it's a wee bit wider but virtually the same height. Funny thing is the first dealr said no, use a 195. The Tire calculator says
 
185/55R16
Section Width: 7.28 in
Overall Diameter: 24.01 in
Sidewall Height: 4.00 in
Radius: 12.00 in
Circumference: 75.42 in
Revs per Mile: 866.3

 
195/55R16
Section Width: 7.67 in
Overall Diameter: 24.44 in
Sidewall Height: 4.22 in
Radius: 12.22 in
Circumference: 76.78 in
Revs per Mile: 851.0

 
205/50R16
Section Width: 8.07 in
Overall Diameter: 24.07 in
Sidewall Height: 4.03 in
Radius: 12.03 in
Circumference: 75.61 in
Revs per Mile: 864.1

 
Ok so the way it looks to me based on the numbers. The 205 is much closer in size to the 185 than the 195 is.
it's section width is quite a bit bigger tho.
But based on the numbers, I might get the 205's.
The tire dealer doesn't want to put on anything other than 185's.

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