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You are in the Honda Fit
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Honda Fit, Hatchback
#2669 of 4751 Re: I don't know [nippononly]
Apr 05, 2006 (10:04 am)
"And I find it unthinkable that Honda would update the model throughout the world, but keep selling the Americans the old model because it has only been here two years? No, that's too hard to believe."
Can you name any time Honda has introduced a car, and then two years later they replaced it? And why, when they already knocked the socks off of the competition (Car and Driver comparison) would they want to confuse the public with the next gen. car? IMHO I think that Honda will keep this gen. fit until 2009, when they will market the next gen. fit as a 2010. Honda will then give us the third gen. fit when the rest of the world gets it, around 2013. This formula will spread out each model year to about 3.5 years, keeping it pretty fresh.
#2671 of 4751 Re: I don't know [bodble2]
Apr 05, 2006 (11:32 am)
> That's what got me comparing the Fit to the Golf.
I'm considering the Golf V also. I measured cargo capacity of the Fit vs my Golf III and they are exactly the same. However, the Fit has an edge w/ the Magic Seats that fold flat, unlike the Golf. I don't like the fact that the Fit driver's seat does not have height adjustment - wife is a short legged 5'2" and I'm 5'11".
I can't imagine the interior in the Fit is better than the Mark V; VW does interiors better than anyone, IMO.
Reliability is a question mark w/ the Golf, but VW's basic warranty is better than Honda's. My 96 Golf has been quite reliable.
As for overall ride quality, I suspect the Golf wins that one. The Fit is said to be harsh and buzzy on the highway, but I can't verify that yet.
For fuel economy, Fit wins.
#2672 of 4751 Re: I don't know [killerpiece]
Apr 05, 2006 (11:46 am)
And why, when they already knocked the socks off of the competition (Car and Driver comparison) would they want to confuse the public with the next gen. car?
Why? For the best reason of all - looks!
No offence, but the Fit looks a bit dated - an old fashioned ugly ducking.
I don't see a compelling reason against getting the redesigned Fit in NA as soon as it comes out. I'm encouraged to think that we will, in that Honda has given us basically the same version as is available in other markets. Will they have to wait for the redesign? I doubt it. So why would we?
The only thing we may lose out on is the Japanese build. That doesn't bother me. Hey, it is a HONDA we're talking about, not a GM (or a Nissan)!
I just wanted to say that we Canadians - and Americans - also build damn fine cars.
#2673 of 4751 Re: I don't know [killerpiece]
Apr 05, 2006 (12:02 pm)
"Can you name any time Honda has introduced a car, and then two years later they replaced it?"
It debuted in Japan in late 1996 and Europe got it for 2000-2001.
In the UK (Honda's biggest single-country European market) it was only there for one year. Replaced by the Jazz in 2002. In fact, the Logo was introduced so late in its life cycle, CAR magazine was mentioning the Jazz as the Logo mk2 in the same article. Also, the change from the Logo to the Jazz was significant. It was an entirely new model, not just an FMC.
I foresee a FMC for the Japanese market in late spring 2007 and Europe following in the early summer, with the US and Canada in the Fall.
Having Honda try to stagger the launch of the Fit across all regions would be a nightmare. Each region got this car at a different time. In fact, each year since 2001 the Fit/Jazz has been introduced to a new market. It would be nonsense from a strategical and financial point of view to keep two generations of a world car out at the same time.
Due to the tremendous success of the current model, the changes for the second generation will probably be just evolutionary.
Apr 05, 2006 (12:10 pm)
a moonroof in the Golf, I believe. But of course, the mileage rating with the 2.5L and a manual (24/32) is fairly crappy. OTOH, you get TONS of low-end torque - it has a MUCH better torque-to-weight ratio than Fit, and the torque is super-spread out in the Golf's 2.5 - a huge plateau that starts way down at 2000 rpm.
I am sure there will be no comparison between the Fit and a VW interior - the VW will win hands down. But the Golf is a heavy car, and handling will suffer a lot - the Fit will win that one easily.
More than anything, I question the price comparison - is that based on actual numbers? I suspect the new Golf will be more like $3K more expensive than the Fit Sport at base price.
For anyone who thinks that we will continue to receive the old Fit after the new model comes out for the '08 MY or CY - just imagine the immense cost to Honda of building TWO DIFFERENT Fit models worldwide. It's not like it's manufactured in that many places.
Plus, c'mon, we all know Honda here, right? Honda values its North American market immensely - it is proportionally more important to Honda than to Nissan or Toyota for instance - and there is just no way they would leave an old model on the market here when a new one was ready to go and already being sold in Japan.
#2675 of 4751 Can Honda Fit W/ Auto Trans Be Towed?
Apr 05, 2006 (12:27 pm)
I would like to know if the Fit, with auto trans, can be towed behind an RV? The manual trans can probably be towed, but I'm not sure about the auto. Thanks..
#2676 of 4751 Re: you can also get [nippononly]
Apr 05, 2006 (1:54 pm)
We sat in a Fit Sport and were pleasantly surprised by the quality of the interior material. The seats, especially, looked and felt pretty good. All the knobs and dial had a quality feel to them. Yes, there was a fair bit of hard plastic but at least it seemed like good quality hard plastic. Carpet, and trunk mat were pretty chintzy though.
And I know I may be in the minority on this one, but I think the base Fit without all the spoilers does not look good at all. Looks like a Chevy Aveo or Suzuki Swift, or something of that ilk.
#2678 of 4751 Re: you can also get [nippononly]
Apr 05, 2006 (2:06 pm)
"I am sure there will be no comparison between the Fit and a VW interior - the VW will win hands down."
I can't say for certain about the VW interior (quality-wise) since I haven't taken a look at it, but the Fit's interior is excellent. It surpasses anything in the class, and many more expensive cars too.