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Re: Car_Man and kyfdx -- Help with this 3.0si convertible quote, please. [kyfdx] by delfer
May 09, 2007 (6:52 pm)
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Replying to: kyfdx (May 03, 2007 2:58 am)

I am confused with my most recent quote ... according to my dealer, the following offer is $500 over invoice:
 
I can get you this car by end of May. Here is the exact lease structure sales price is $500 over invoice.
 
Model 0729 Z4 R 3.0si USD 42,400.00
   Color 668 Jet Black N/C
   Upholstery LASW Black Leather N/C
   Options ZPP Premium Package 2,750.00
                 399 Fully automatic soft top N/C
                 430 Auto-dimming mirrors N/C
                 459 Power front seats N/C
                 493 Storage package N/C
                 639 BMW Assist N/C
     ZSP Sport Package 1,200.00
                 224 Sport driving mode N/C
                 350 18" wheels w/performance tires N/C
                 704 Sport suspension N/C
     205 STEPTRONIC automatic trans. 1,275.00
     438 Wood trim N/C
     494 Heated front seats 500.00
     522 Xenon headlights 700.00
     609 Navigation system 1,800.00
              Net Total 50,625.00
              DESTINATION CHARGE 775.00
              GAS GUZZLER N/C
              Total Suggested Price 51,400.00
              Selling price $48,380
 
According to edmunds, 51,400 is MSRP but $47,320 is invoice, so if I'm not mistaken, $47,820 is $500 over invoice.
 
Where is his $560 coming from???
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Re: Car_Man and kyfdx -- Help with this 3.0si convertible quote, please. [delfer] by kyfdx HOST
May 10, 2007 (3:20 am)
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Replying to: delfer (May 09, 2007 6:52 pm)

Where is his $560 coming from???
 
MACO and training fee..
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Re: Car_Man and kyfdx -- Help with this 3.0si convertible quote, please. [kyfdx] by delfer
May 10, 2007 (8:41 pm)
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Replying to: kyfdx (May 10, 2007 3:20 am)

Ok, thanks ... that clarifies things. That said kyfdx, can you tell me what you compute the monthly payments for this quote for:
 
36 months, 15K miles, and 36 months 12K miles?
This is with zero down, and about $1500++ in drive-offs.
 
Thanks!
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Re: Car_Man and kyfdx -- Help with this 3.0si convertible quote, please. [delfer] by kyfdx HOST
May 11, 2007 (12:11 pm)
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Replying to: delfer (May 10, 2007 8:41 pm)

Rolling the $625 acq.fee into the selling price, the payment for 3yr/45K would be $543/mo. + tax..
 
Due at signing would be 1st payment, security deposit and title/registration fees (approx. $1200 + title/registration).
 
3yr/36K would drop the payment to $516/mo.+ tax.
 
Hope that helps,
kyfdx
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Re: Car_Man and kyfdx -- Help with this 3.0si convertible quote, please. [kyfdx] by delfer
May 12, 2007 (8:22 am)
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Replying to: kyfdx (May 11, 2007 12:11 pm)

Awesome ... looks like I'll be sealing the deal on this one on the 22nd, when the car arrives. May I ask for your valuable opinion kyfdx?
 
1. Are you familiar with the DVD based navi on the Z4? The dealer tells me it is not real-time traffic like on the new 3-series, so I wonder if it is still worth it.
2. Is BMW a bit more lenient in overused miles, if the plan is one leases with them at the end of lease term? Or is isafer to just make the higher payment for 15K miles per year?
 
Thank you so much for all the help!
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Re: Car_Man and kyfdx -- Help with this 3.0si convertible quote, please. [delfer] by kyfdx HOST
May 12, 2007 (10:08 am)
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Replying to: delfer (May 12, 2007 8:22 am)

1) Not familiar with the NAV.. I have a pretty good sense of direction..
 
2) Lenient? No.. you'll have to pay for them.. At this time, BMWFS allows you to purchase extra miles at $0.16/ea., up until 6 months before lease end.. I think your break-even point would be around 14,000 miles per year.. If you think you'll drive that much or more, or you just can't handle unscheduled financial payments, you should probably go for the 15K lease. If you think you'll be driving somewhere between 12K-13.5K miles/year, then just buy the miles during the last year of the lease.
 
I've found that we drive our convertible less than the sedan it replaced... I'd think a 2-seat convertible might get even less use. So, you'll probably drive it less than whatever it is replacing.
 
regards,
kyfdx
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Re: Run Flats [blacktalon] by jlettie2
May 28, 2007 (8:49 am)
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Replying to: blacktalon (May 05, 2007 11:03 pm)

Hi
   My name is Joe. I'm considering a Z-4. When you bought your michelin Pilot Sports for your vehicle, did you purchase a compact spare with the rim and a jack. I tried communicating with several BMW dealerships in my area and BMW USA. They stated if I put regular tires on the Z-4, I could damage the suspension and also possibly void the warranty. I think they are just blowing smoke. If you did purchase a spare what size rim,tire and type of jack.
If you care to reply my E-mail jlettiecomcast.net. thanks.
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Help with Z-4 lease by mghcar
Jun 21, 2007 (11:50 pm)
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I have been looking for a convertible. I have a price on a Z-4 lease, but it does not look very good when I compare to other prices on this forum. Could you help?
MSRP $44,470
Selling Price $42,825
Acquisition fee $625
Total upfront fees: $418.95
LEV %: 66%
Term: 36 mos.
Money factor: .0018
Due at Start: $990.12
Monthly payment: $558.60
 
Should I wait longer? When do 2008's come out? I was told that this deal was only good through July 2.
 
Thanks again for the help.
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Re: Help with Z-4 lease [mghcar] by kyfdx HOST
Jun 22, 2007 (9:22 am)
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Replying to: mghcar (Jun 21, 2007 11:50 pm)

Using your figures, I get $523/mo. + tax.. Which seems about right, assuming your tax rate is around 6.5%-7%.
 
1) The price is not the great.. From what I've read, another $500-$1000 off shouldn't be too hard to get.
 
2) The money factor is marked up the maximum .0004 and since you aren't making a security deposit, you are getting another bump of .00015.. This takes the money factor from .00125 to .0018
 
Just dropping the mark-up on the money factor will knock $30/mo. off the payment. Making a security deposit will save another $12/mo. off.. If you do those two things, your payment is down to $517/mo..
 
That would be a decent deal... a little more off the selling price, and we're under $510/mo.. That is where I would want to be..
 
regards,
kyfdx
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2007 Z4 Coupe Leasing Question by ppchan
Jun 22, 2007 (4:01 pm)
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Hi car_man & kyfdx ,
 
I am currently trying to lease a 2007 Z4 coupe with the following features:
 
premium package, sport package, automatic, and heated seat
 
The invoice price for that would be $42,845 while the MSRP price would be $46,500.
 
My quesion is when I'm going to bargain with the dealer (I'm located in San Diego), what should I set my bottom line (price over invoice) to be according to your extensive experience? Is $500-$1000 over invoice would be possible on leasing a Z4?
 
Also, there's a speical lease offer going on for the Z4 Roadster now and the montly payment turns out to be almost $100 cheaper than the Coupe even though the Roadster is $3000 more expensive.I know the residual value would make a difference; howoever is it gonna make that big difference (assume all the features are the same on both car)?
 
Thanks for your help and it is very appreciated

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