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Re: Civic Si vs. Sentra Se-R- Automatic transmission [tayl0rd] by lilengineerboy
Apr 15, 2008 (6:55 am)
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Replying to: tayl0rd (Apr 15, 2008 4:03 am)

Agreed 100%! I'd love to have a sport bike, but I've never been taught how to shift a motorcycle.
 
Don't be afraid of that. Its not hard to learn. The hand operated clutch on a motorcycle is super easy to get used to and modulate. You just roll on power as you let out the clutch.
 
I feel the same about convertible sports cars/sport coupes. Why take a great car and ruin it by chopping the top off?? And an automatic, convertible sports car/sport coupe has got to be the most poseriffic thing in the world! (Mustang V6s excepted since they aren't about performance, anyway; but the GT and above, yes.)
 
Sometimes, the car is about being a convertible and not about being sport. The Sebring, old school MBZ SLs, etc are in this category - they are fun but hardly sporty. Sometimes, the convertible part is part of what makes the car sporty (MGs, Triumphs, Boxster, Miata).
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Re: Civic Si vs. Sentra Se-R- Automatic transmission [shipo] by day9
Apr 15, 2008 (3:29 pm)
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Replying to: shipo (Apr 14, 2008 9:05 am)

Hi, Shipo,
 
You sounds like an expert. I just got a si 2 wks ago. It is my first manual car and it is pretty hard for me to learn. But now I begin to enjoy driving it. 4th gear is my favorite, the car has lots of power.
But at the light, I am always slower than others. Can u share some secret how to get off the line quick? Thanks,
 
Mike
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Re: Civic Si vs. Sentra Se-R- Automatic transmission [day9] by cz75
Apr 15, 2008 (6:00 pm)
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Replying to: day9 (Apr 15, 2008 3:29 pm)

Use the shift light. Practice. Better rubber. More power. In that order.
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Re: Civic Si vs. Sentra Se-R- Automatic transmission [day9] by shipo
Apr 15, 2008 (7:21 pm)
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Replying to: day9 (Apr 15, 2008 3:29 pm)

With a manual transmission it's all about practice, especially when you're talking about a motor that is most happy when the RPMs are well north of 5,000.
 
Also of note, with regards to getting off the line with a manual transmission equipped car, there is "Quick" and then there is "QUICK". The first one requires more finesse than the second, and comes with familiarity with the car. As you learn to "feel" the car, you'll get better and better at matching the RPMS, throttle application, and speed of clutch engagement to achieve whatever kind of launch you want. As for the really fast launch, mash the throttle, side-step the clutch pedal as the RPMs are heading beyond 5,000 miles, and hang on. By the way, this method isn't conducive to a long drive-train life.
 
Best Regards,
Shipo
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Re: Civic Si vs. Sentra Se-R- Automatic transmission [shipo] by tayl0rd
Apr 16, 2008 (4:24 am)
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Replying to: shipo (Apr 15, 2008 7:21 pm)

... By the way, this method isn't conducive to a long drive-train life.
 
Come on. The Si only has like 8 lbs/ft of torque. How much damage could happen??
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Re: Civic Si vs. Sentra Se-R- Automatic transmission [tayl0rd] by shipo
Apr 16, 2008 (4:37 am)
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Replying to: tayl0rd (Apr 16, 2008 4:24 am)

ROTFLMAO!
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Is surge on upshift normal? by ichor0416
Apr 20, 2008 (1:59 pm)
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I test drove an '08 4dr si yesterday and liked it, but there are two things that troubled me. When I upshifted from 2nd to 3rd to 4th gears, immediately after each shift, the car would surge ahead just a bit, as if synchro was confused. I'm an experienced driver, having let the clutch travel all the way up before hitting the accelerator. The surge occurred in the millisecond before I even hit the accelerator! Is this standard si behavior? The second thing that troubles me is all this stuff I've been reading about the car's reluctance to get into 3rd gear, and TSB 08-020 (which I haven't been able to find a copy of on the web). I'm considering the si w/ Nav for invoice price. If anyone knows if it's possible to get lower, let me know! Thanks for your help.
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Re: rpm hang between shifts- anybody else annoyed? [tayl0rd] by bb1913
Apr 29, 2008 (6:28 pm)
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Replying to: tayl0rd (Mar 21, 2007 3:46 am)

We have a 2007 Honda Civic Si that always had the hanging throttle problem and the annoying sticky 3rd gear...today I learned that my clutch is totally destroyed (they have to pull the transmission to confirm that the wear is "even" so they can tell you that it is from "extreme" use not parts or materials!). Just over 18,000 miles...now its a $1300.00 dollar job. I've had 3 Saabs that went to 200,000+ each without any clutch issues whatsoever and the car belongs to my "drives like an old lady" wife. I now learn that this is a cronic problem and I regret having purchased this car since the dealership isn't being upfront and their suggestion that it is a problem we created by some kind of driving style. Last time I checked, you need to use the clutch to move the car forward. So be forewarned Honda owners...that clutch is on the way out and it's your problem not Honda's.
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Re: Is surge on upshift normal? [ichor0416] by bb1913
Apr 29, 2008 (6:38 pm)
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Replying to: ichor0416 (Apr 20, 2008 1:59 pm)

Hi I just posted my experience with the Si hanging throttle, clutch and 3rd gear problem. So if that didn't get your attention and you're still going to gamble on this car you should note that I purchased the extended warranty when I bought the car and the burned out clutch wasn't covered since they blamed it on excessive use (my wife must ride the clutch all the time!). Funny how our 3 Saabs went over 200,000 each with her being the principle driver in each (by a factor of 10...I work at home and she travels). No doubt its a fun little car...but Honda doesn't seem to back it up. They have lost us as future customers forever.
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The clutch isn't by cz75
Apr 30, 2008 (8:46 am)
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the weak point on the car that the third gear synchros are. They aren't related, as best I can tell. Perhaps you had a flaw with the engagement of the clutch, but I'd tend to believe that there's something about the engagement that you and/or your wife just aren't reading it right and causing premature wear, especially since this is one issue few people complain about. Be thankful you never drove the 90-93 Integra, as that car had an abrupt clutch that was hard to engage.

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