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Replying to: lilengineerboy (Apr 11, 2008 3:30 pm) very well-said, i agree completely. No more needs to be said (though much more could be said...)
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Replying to: kork13 (Apr 13, 2008 1:15 pm) All I have to say is that I am having a lot of fun driving the Sentra Se-R AUTOMATIC! The paddle shifters are a good addition as well, once you learn how to use them. It is much easier than having to use your right hand to shift with an outdated manual car. Continuously variable transmissions are the wave of the future. Race inspired cars engineered automatic with the paddle shifters to add a genuine touch. Check out this article: http://www.daytondailynews.com/blogs/content/shared-gen/blogs/dayton/automoblog/- entries/2006/11/30/post.html All that I am asking is for Honda to consider an automatic version of the Si- with downgraded horsepower as in the Se-R. If it is working for Nissan why not try it with Honda? Maybe some positive feedback from someone? FYI- I do currently lease a Honda Civic EX and do not want to switch to Nissan when my lease is up! |
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Replying to: spikepark (Apr 14, 2008 8:12 am) To this date, no automatic, not even Audi's highly regarded DSG can match a true manual for versatility and control of a vehicle. Best Regards, Shipo
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Replying to: spikepark (Apr 14, 2008 8:12 am) Continuously variable transmissions are the wave of the future. I haven't heard that since oh about 1989 (yikes is that 20 years ago) when the Subaru Justy came out. I think it will be true for hybrids and very low power/low demand situations. Race inspired cars engineered automatic with the paddle shifters to add a genuine touch A sequential manual transmission is different than a slushbox. It is more like a motorcycle transmission than a torque converter. All that I am asking is for Honda to consider an automatic version of the Si- with downgraded horsepower as in the Se-R. If it is working for Nissan why not try it with Honda? Given the discounts I see on the automatic SE-Rs, I would argue it is not working so well for Nissan. You have to buy what makes you happy. I guess I don't understand why you would want to take a specialized vehicle, designed for a specific task, and dumb it down, slow it down, and make it less fun to drive as opposed to just learning how to drive it properly.
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Replying to: lilengineerboy (Apr 14, 2008 3:27 pm) Agreed 100%! I'd love to have a sport bike, but I've never been taught how to shift a motorcycle. I don't go around whining, "Why can't motorcycle manufacturers make sport bikes with automatic transmissions?" That would be ridiculous! It'd take all the "sport" out of a "sport bike." Now this will ruffle some feathers, but I feel the same about convertible sports cars/sport coupes. Why take a great car and ruin it by chopping the top off??  And an automatic, convertible sports car/sport coupe has got to be the most poseriffic thing in the world!  (Mustang V6s excepted since they aren't about performance, anyway; but the GT and above, yes.)
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Replying to: tayl0rd (Apr 15, 2008 4:03 am) Don't be afraid of that. Its not hard to learn. The hand operated clutch on a motorcycle is super easy to get used to and modulate. You just roll on power as you let out the clutch. I feel the same about convertible sports cars/sport coupes. Why take a great car and ruin it by chopping the top off?? And an automatic, convertible sports car/sport coupe has got to be the most poseriffic thing in the world! (Mustang V6s excepted since they aren't about performance, anyway; but the GT and above, yes.) Sometimes, the car is about being a convertible and not about being sport. The Sebring, old school MBZ SLs, etc are in this category - they are fun but hardly sporty. Sometimes, the convertible part is part of what makes the car sporty (MGs, Triumphs, Boxster, Miata). |
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Replying to: shipo (Apr 14, 2008 9:05 am) You sounds like an expert. I just got a si 2 wks ago. It is my first manual car and it is pretty hard for me to learn. But now I begin to enjoy driving it. 4th gear is my favorite, the car has lots of power. But at the light, I am always slower than others. Can u share some secret how to get off the line quick? Thanks, Mike |
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Replying to: day9 (Apr 15, 2008 3:29 pm) |
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Replying to: day9 (Apr 15, 2008 3:29 pm) Also of note, with regards to getting off the line with a manual transmission equipped car, there is "Quick" and then there is "QUICK". The first one requires more finesse than the second, and comes with familiarity with the car. As you learn to "feel" the car, you'll get better and better at matching the RPMS, throttle application, and speed of clutch engagement to achieve whatever kind of launch you want. As for the really fast launch, mash the throttle, side-step the clutch pedal as the RPMs are heading beyond 5,000 miles, and hang on.  By the way, this method isn't conducive to a long drive-train life. Best Regards, Shipo
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Replying to: shipo (Apr 15, 2008 7:21 pm) Come on. The Si only has like 8 lbs/ft of torque. How much damage could happen??  
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