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Re: rpm hang between shifts- anybody else annoyed? [tseosh] by punkr77
Sep 12, 2007 (3:19 pm)
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Replying to: tseosh (Mar 20, 2007 7:25 am)

I've had my 07 Si for about 6 weeks now. When we test drove an Si about 6 months or so ago, the hanging throttle was very pronounced. When we finally ended up buying one, the one we purchased has barely a hint of it, and only when you're way up on the tach. When tooling around town there's no hanging at all. Perhaps they've "fixed" it on new production.
 
So far my only complaints are:
 
Some popping from the suspension. It rides well for a performance car (much better than my 99 Mustang Cobra did). We have really rough streets where I live and it only does it at really slow speeds with fairly big bumps/holes.
 
The exhaust is fairly loud inside the car. Louder than the stock pipes on my Cobra. Most of the time I like the sound. Sometimes it gets annoying.
 
The interior is hard to keep looking clean and new. The black shows dust/dirt/hair easily. The black seats love to pickup lint. My wife took some friends out one night, one of which was wearing a pink sweater. I almost had a heart attack when I got in and saw my seat had a hot pink tint to it. The black plastic on the inside of the door scuffs easily and shows it badly.
 
All in all, the car is really great. It's amazing how far the Civic has come since I had my 95 EX coupe.
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Re: What to do... [tiff_c] by sabastian
Sep 12, 2007 (4:55 pm)
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Replying to: tiff_c (Sep 12, 2007 9:45 am)

I haven't checked out the Mazdaspeed as much as the others mostly because the interior struck me as cheap. I am a stickler for interiors since, as I see it, it's where you experience the car and spend almost all of your time. I realize that the MS3 is crazy fast and a good drive, but the interior just kills it for me.
 
As a reply to the other post(s), I guess the throttle hang isn't so much a problem as an annoying feature. Are there any other known issues with the Si? I've had a look at the GTi forums, and it seems like the DSG is better than it was in the first A3's, but I'm still hearing about some problems.
 
Another couple questions, how is the highway cruise in the Si. Quiet? Smooth Ride? Does the 6th gear help keep the revs down and the engine calm? How is the torque at low revs? Can you drive around normally, doing all of the normal A to B chores without going into VTECH. Please forgive all of these questions...This is the first Honda that I have ever really been interested in, and most of my car knowledge lies with Saabs and Audis.
 
Thanks for the help!
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Re: What to do... [sabastian] by kork13
Sep 12, 2007 (8:31 pm)
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Replying to: sabastian (Sep 12, 2007 4:55 pm)

I bought my '07 Si in May, and I absolutely love it. To answer some questions...
 
Quiet? Very. Even just sitting at a light, the noise level with the windows down vs. windows up is significant. pretty quiet even at cruising speeds on the freeway.
 
Smooth? Reasonably. If you're going over kinda uneven roads, you'll definitely feel it, but on normal driving, it's great. Stiff enough to let you feel the road, but pretty smooth overall ride.
 
6th gear is fairly tall, in normal driving I take it from about 63 mph at 2800 rpms to ~80 mph at 3600 rpms, and 100 mph at around 4800 rpms. About the Si's rpms, remember that this engine is designed to drive with higher rpms... I normally don't let them go below ~2500, and (again in normal driving, i.e., non-vtec-fun-time ) shift at around 3500 rpms.
 
About the i-VTEC, remember that it is ALWAYS engaged, anytime you start being aggressive with your driving (flooring it, etc.). With that said, I drive around town ALL THE TIME without kicking the VTEC into high gear... As I said above, just normal driving with reasonable shift points, that will keep the VTEC fairly quiet.
 
Torque is pretty good at the low end (sub-2800 rpms) and the high end (6000+ rpms). In the middle it's marginal, but just fine as long as you're not loaded down with a car full of people. If you have 1-3 people in the car, you can still pull some good performance. With 4 or 5, you definitely notice an unfortunate lack of adequate torque...
 
ALSO... (sorry, this post is REAL long...) I test-drove the GTI before I bought my Si. Although I agree that the greater power in the GTI was nice, my main turn-offs were the price and a somewhat shoddy reputation for VW reliability over the long-term. I plan to keep my Si for at least 7-8 years or so, so as a college student, I wanted a car that would be happy and healthy over the long haul. Personally, though I look back with joy at that 'Launch Mode' of theirs, the GTI was really not what I wanted, and the SI was perfect in every respect for what I was after. Light/compact, good mileage, respectable/fun performance, and a nice appearance.
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Re: What to do... [iomatic] by cz75
Sep 13, 2007 (10:05 am)
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Replying to: iomatic (Sep 12, 2007 12:21 pm)

Defects in the front suspension, bad struts, poor paint quality, easily worn/damaged interior materials, recalls for defective rear wheel bearing seals, etc. I have NEVER taken a Honda product in for any kind of recall since 1990. Now, I will.
 
Or did you mean that I show proof that Honda still tops VW - that's as close as JD Power and Consumer Reports.
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Re: What to do... [kork13] by sabastian
Sep 13, 2007 (10:11 am)
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Replying to: kork13 (Sep 12, 2007 8:31 pm)

Hey thanks for answering all of my questions. I'm still not sure about which one to go for. I think I'm going to have to go for a couple of longer test drives and then maybe flip a coin...
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Re: What to do... [sabastian] by tiff_c
Sep 13, 2007 (10:27 am)
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Replying to: sabastian (Sep 13, 2007 10:11 am)

Hey thanks for answering all of my questions. I'm still not sure about which one to go for. I think I'm going to have to go for a couple of longer test drives and then maybe flip a coin...
 
The reality is that when all is said and done what you should do is buy the car you like the most. Forget all the magazines and advice from friends etc....
When you sit in the car and you just really enjoy it that's the car you buy. The one you don't have any regrets buying when you drive out of the dealership.
You've narrowed it down to 2 cars so buy the one you like the best, drive them a few more times and be happy with what you buy. It's really that simple.
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Re: What to do... [cz75] by iomatic
Sep 13, 2007 (2:44 pm)
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Replying to: cz75 (Sep 13, 2007 10:05 am)

I'm just curious where you got your info, and what you base your judgements on. I'm on 4000mi. and have none of the issues you mention:
 
Defects in the front suspension, bad struts, poor paint quality, easily worn/damaged interior materials, recalls for defective rear wheel bearing seals, etc
 
Though, paint is chipping from 80mph #$%^ I-5 construction.
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Re: What to do... [iomatic] by sabastian
Sep 13, 2007 (3:06 pm)
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Replying to: iomatic (Sep 13, 2007 2:44 pm)

Are these problems with a Civic Si or a GTi?
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Re: What to do... [sabastian] by kork13
Sep 13, 2007 (5:12 pm)
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Replying to: sabastian (Sep 13, 2007 3:06 pm)

Those are some issues people are having with the Si. I haven't looked in any of the GTI forums, I'm not really sure what they may be having with it. Myself, I'm at about 4300 miles, and haven't really had any major issues. Yea, there are some small things I'm gonna have looked at since I have the warranty (like my left-rear window making an odd noise going down), but nothing I'm at all concerned with.
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suspension problem by blitzebill
Sep 13, 2007 (5:59 pm)
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so i've been part of this group since June 23 when i bought my Si sedan.
 
as some of you have said, you developed a left front popping sound in the suspension when hitting certain bumps or road imperfections.
 
mine started at about 1000 miles. i went to my dealer tonight and recreated the problem by driving over pavement that has a culvert drain cover over a sunken area of the road, like a street. that's the only way i ever heard the popping sound.
 
the technician called honda. they said they are aware of the problem but have not decided how best to fix it yet since the sedan problem is a recent one as opposed to the coupe which has had the same problem.
 
so we wait and see.
 
otherwise, this car is a blast.
 
but a funny thing happened to my trade-in back in June: it was an '05 Accord coupe 4 cyl with only 12,000 miles on it. it was sold a couple weeks later, and then 3 days after that, the tranny fell out of it! i never ever had a problem. too weird. guess i was meant to get rid of it, and lucky for me i did when i did.

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