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Re: voiding warranty... [k5ldb] by stevecebu
Aug 17, 2007 (8:35 am)
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Replying to: k5ldb (Aug 17, 2007 4:54 am)

Nothing you do to your car, short of converting it to a race car, voids your warranty. Did I mention that nothing you do to your car voids your warranty? Dealers will give that con line and then whoever is told it will go around repeating it until everyone is repeating it like it's true. Actually, nothing you do to your car voids your warranty. The worst case scenario is you do something that can possibly void warranty coverage on specific components or systems only but not the entire car.
 
I guess it will help to have a good lawyer to remind the dealer since they always try their level best to find a reason to void the warranty. Having the law be true and enforcing it can be costly. I've had enough dealers in the past tell me about voided warranties and then your cars sits unfixed.
If you autox your car then they will say it wore everything out prematurely. They LOVE to do that!
But I will look into it more when i get back. I don't plan on any mods to any car I buy much past tires and different sway bars. Mazda tried to void my warranty on those! I went to a different dealer and they didn't care, so it's probably more the individual car dealer than it is the manufacturer. Problem is the other car dealer called up the dealer I took it to on the phone and told them I must race the car or something.
The problem was actually a faulty sensor and couldn't be related to the sway bars.
Some dealers do try and do this tho.
Hopefully Mitsu has stopped their policy of voiding warranties in my area. Honda I never modified in any way so no drama there.
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'08 Civic Si by teasip
Aug 18, 2007 (3:04 pm)
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"Old" man in middle-aged crisis (48 y/o) looking for a new vehicle in the next couple of months. Interested in the Si in a similar format as the '07 model but I've been reading about the MUGEN '08 model. Pardon the potentially silly question but is the MUGEN going to be the only '08 Si model available or will I be able to get a comparable '08 like the current '07? Co-worker has a daughter at a local Honda dealership and I was able to drive it (coupe) during a lunch break and it reminded me of my old Nissan Sentra SE-R.
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Re: '08 Civic Si [teasip] by kork13
Aug 18, 2007 (3:28 pm)
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Replying to: teasip (Aug 18, 2007 3:04 pm)

teasip, the primary model available of the 2008 Si will be very similar to the '07 Si model (a few changes are likely, but nothing very significant), and they'll be doing it in both the coupe and sedan styles as well. So yes, you will be able to get what you're after.
 
Comments on the '08 Mugen model contained here: Mugen Si First Drive Article Review... personally, I'm fairly unimpressed...
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Re: '08 Civic Si [kork13] by teasip
Aug 18, 2007 (5:44 pm)
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Replying to: kork13 (Aug 18, 2007 3:28 pm)

Thanks for the info.. For the price and the sporty response (compared to 12 years of trucks), as well as the gas mileage, it might be good car to consider (normal aspirated Si).
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Re: '08 Civic Si [teasip] by eldaino
Aug 20, 2007 (10:01 am)
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Replying to: teasip (Aug 18, 2007 5:44 pm)

the mugen is normally aspirated too, but the price is totally supercharged.
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eye candy by k5ldb
Aug 20, 2007 (11:23 am)
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Isn't the Mugen primarily assorted eye candy with not much else?
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yeah by iomatic
Aug 20, 2007 (11:56 am)
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Supercharged price, not supercharged engine.
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Re: eye candy [k5ldb] by kork13
Aug 20, 2007 (1:00 pm)
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Replying to: k5ldb (Aug 20, 2007 11:23 am)

That would be a fairly accurate description... all just a bunch of appearance stuff plus a stiffer suspension and bigger wheels. That's about it.
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Re: eye candy [kork13] by k5ldb
Aug 20, 2007 (2:23 pm)
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Replying to: kork13 (Aug 20, 2007 1:00 pm)

Just took another look at it and it has an exhaust system, suspension and wheels/tires that could improve performance/handling along with the eye candy stuff. It says "will carry an under-$30K price tag" which sounds like marketing talk for $29,995 or something like that. Even if they are starting with the Nav car at $23,040 that's almost $7k extra and if it's the base car at $21,290 it's closer to $9k.
 
A little surfing yields a complete ground effects/wing package for $1244, coilovers for $1098 and Magnaflow exhaust for $498 totalling $2840. A really nice set of 18's could be had for say $2k and installation of everything for maybe $1k so for less than $6k one could easily create their own. If one is selective in wheel choice the entire package probably comes out about $5k and if one can do their own installation about $4k covers it.
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Re: eye candy [k5ldb] by eldaino
Aug 21, 2007 (6:45 am)
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Replying to: k5ldb (Aug 20, 2007 2:23 pm)

your right, but whatever body kit you are talking about wont have the same fit and finish as the mugen stuff....
 
this is the thing that is hard to comprehend and yet accept at the same time.
 
Mugens stuff is pretty much equal to if not BETTER in quality to what honda already puts on their vehicles...and hondaphiles know this. And they KNOW how to tune a car...they have the civic type r pumping out 250hp NATURALLY ASPIRATED! Granted it probably costs a bit, but if there was engine work done instead of the visuals, it would make such a stronger case for the car.
 
Mugens stuff has ALWAYS been expensive. But in the real world, outside of jdm mania, 30k buys you a lot, hence why i don't think anyone interested in this car is interested in the most bang for you buck, as the regular si already offers that. This is a limited edition model that will hold its value like the r32 has after its already out of production, and will be sought after by enthusiasts.
 
I love mugens products, but outside of engine/suspension/exhaust/wheels, the stuff (visual sytling) IS overpriced. Its the absolute best you can buy, but it is overpriced. And for the american market, we could have done much better with a type r.
 
Do the amount of parts put on the mugen equal a 30k tag? yeah they do, mugen really does charge that much for their stuff. But considering how honda is marketing it,(a much sportier, not just cooler looking civic) its not worth it, unless you REALLY want your civic to look like the mugen. Can you imagine what you could do with an si sedan with an extra 7 k? This car is cooler looking, but its only slightly sportier, not 30k sportier.
 
So i guess the REAL problem is how much mugen charges...not the existance of a limited edition si sedan. It looks great, and those wheels are incredible looking, and i'm sure that the combo of aerodynamic functional body moldings and lightweight wheels does equal a civic with better track performance...but its just to pretty to be beaten!
 
I do think the car is cool, but if i did have 30k, it would be for an sti or r32.
 
If i really wanted to go mugen, id invest in some wheels or some engine tuning components. I'd worry about uber expensive (albiet functional) body styling later.

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