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#333 of 487 Re: Saw a Civic "2.0i-VTEC" Sedan in Korea [siarizona] by kork13 Aug 11, 2007 (5:08 am)
Replying to: siarizona (Aug 10, 2007 11:23 pm) When I was in Germany a few weeks ago, I also noticed the European style of the Civic... I was actually quite impressed, I really liked the body style it has. Unfortunately I didn't think to snap any pictures, but if you ever see some photos, you'll see what I mean. Replies to this message: siarizona (Aug 12, 2007 2:59 am)
#334 of 487 Re: Saw a Civic "2.0i-VTEC" Sedan in Korea [kork13] by siarizona Aug 12, 2007 (2:59 am)
Replying to: kork13 (Aug 11, 2007 5:08 am) Ahh, Germany. It would ve very hard to drive a Honda in the land of BMWs. I enjoyed my time there.
#335 of 487 Re: BMW 325 i manual v. Sedan SI [nagatahawk] by tseosh Aug 12, 2007 (10:49 pm)
Replying to: nagatahawk (Aug 10, 2007 2:46 pm) "I have driven an si sedan. the car was very nice except that it did not idle down between shifts. Iv'e heard there is a fix for this. I will have to go for another re-test drive to see if the factory has addressed this little annoyance..."   I consider the rev hang problem more than an annoyance. I have an '07 Sedan and the rev hang absolutely kills the driving experience everytime I have to shift. Despite many claiming that it is "fixed" on the '07 Si, it is very much a part of my daily driving experience. If Honda fixes the rev hang for the '08 models, I would hope they apply the fix to the '07s, too. Replies to this message: kork13 (Aug 13, 2007 4:13 am)
#336 of 487 Re: BMW 325 i manual v. Sedan SI [tseosh] by kork13 Aug 13, 2007 (4:13 am)
Replying to: tseosh (Aug 12, 2007 10:49 pm) the rev hang absolutely kills the driving experience   I may just not be experienced enough yet as a performance driver, but i haven't really noticed the rev hang or how it "kills the driving experience"... I just go out playing and have all kinds of fun. Last night I spent 30 minutes in some back roads, an deverything was going great. I love my little baby...
#337 of 487 Re: Saw a Civic "2.0i-VTEC" Sedan in Korea [siarizona] by eldaino Aug 13, 2007 (10:54 am)
Replying to: siarizona (Aug 10, 2007 11:23 pm) this is the civic that other markets get (except europe) that we dont get here.   this car is a nice middlepoint that we need here in the states: the 2.0 k20 pushing 155hp, a sport auto tranny, nicer interior, etc. Something to better compete with the mazda 3 gt.   ofcourse, ours would have the usdm civic face, and not the jdm taillights or headlights.   HONDA: makes this civic for our market. we will love you more!   the wheels are actually what was available as a honda factory performance package for the 7th generation civic...but they were never si wheels, at least not here in the states.   this is a sharp looking car; even if it looked like ours does, but still had the midrange k20 with a leather/sport fabric interior with the sport A/T, id seriously consider a civic again.   This car is rebadged the csx in canada, under the acura nameplate. There is also a csx type-s, which is basically their version of the si sedan.
#338 of 487 Rev hang by forbesj Aug 14, 2007 (8:22 am)
I notice it, I feel it when upshifting in non-sequential order (which I tend to do a lot), and, frankly, it's not a big deal to me.   Example:   I burst onto a 45mph speed limit road in 3rd gear, and then shift right to 5th or 6th to cruise once I get up to speed, when the engine is around 5.5k RPMs   The rev hang makes a bit more work for the clutch there, and a slightly less smooth shift as the engine slows down to match the transmission.   Also, it definitely affects engine braking when you're in situations where you don't have the engine pushing 5k RPMs+ - if the engine is zinging along, you get pretty immediate engine braking, but at slower speeds, it feels more like an automatic when you let off the gas. Hardly a deal breaker. Replies to this message: eldaino (Aug 14, 2007 10:45 am)
#339 of 487 Re: Rev hang [forbesj] by eldaino Aug 14, 2007 (10:45 am)
Replying to: forbesj (Aug 14, 2007 8:22 am) mabye for some, but who wants automatic traits in a car, when you bought it for its killer manual transmission?
#340 of 487 ... by forbesj Aug 14, 2007 (10:57 pm)
The sum total of the trait is when the engine is at <3k RPMs, and you let off the gas, it takes a second or so longer before you feel the engine braking. If you're at 5k+, then you feel the engine braking just fine. As compared to the "can't shift the damn thing to 5th" or "Yes, I just jerked everyone in the car around in shifting to 2nd gear slowly" Speed3, or the "Couldn't tell how fast I was going because it was too soft and quiet inside" GTI; nothing's perfect! In the real world, this doesn't exactly make a difference. If I want to use engine braking, I down shift to do so. That letting off the gas while doing 60mph on the highway doesn't decelerate right away isn't much of an issue to me. It clearly bothers some people, and I can see how the throttle could be a deal breaker to some, but it isn't to me. That the throttle isn't absolutely instantaneous is something I notice, but it responds quickly enough. Replies to this message: stevecebu (Aug 15, 2007 1:24 am) k5ldb (Aug 17, 2007 4:54 am) stevecebu (Aug 17, 2007 8:35 am)
#341 of 487 Re: ... [forbesj] by stevecebu Aug 15, 2007 (1:24 am)
Replying to: forbesj (Aug 14, 2007 10:57 pm) That letting off the gas while doing 60mph on the highway doesn't decelerate right away isn't much of an issue to me. It clearly bothers some people, and I can see how the throttle could be a deal breaker to some, but it isn't to me.   Just wondering if this is a flywheel issue? It sounds like the flywheel needs to be lighter. Has anyone tried replacing the flywheel with a lighter aftermarket one to see if it helps? Voids warranty I know but still lots of guys hop them up. A flywheel is no big deal. It would irritate me but I will see if the 2008's are any better. Replies to this message: k5ldb (Aug 17, 2007 4:54 am) stevecebu (Aug 17, 2007 8:35 am)
#342 of 487 Re: voiding warranty... [stevecebu] by k5ldb Aug 17, 2007 (4:54 am)
Replying to: stevecebu (Aug 15, 2007 1:24 am) Nothing you do to your car, short of converting it to a race car, voids your warranty. Did I mention that nothing you do to your car voids your warranty? Dealers will give that con line and then whoever is told it will go around repeating it until everyone is repeating it like it's true. Actually, nothing you do to your car voids your warranty. The worst case scenario is you do something that can possibly void warranty coverage on specific components or systems only but not the entire car. The only way part of the warranty can be voided is if they can unequivocally prove that a failure was due to an unauthorized modification. If you change the flywheel it might affect warranty on your clutch but it legally can not affect warranty on your a/c or electrical or radiator or, or, or. That is federal law, so work on spreading the word that nothing you do to your car can void your warranty, unless you convert it to a race car that is. When they admit Honda to NASCAR along with Toyota and you set yours up then your warranty will be void. Until then, no. Replies to this message: stevecebu (Aug 17, 2007 8:35 am)

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