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Honda Civic, Sedan
#197 of 487 Re: hesitation, age of drivers [eldaino]
Jun 25, 2007 (10:01 am)
I'm 11 years your elder and no, this is not my first Honda. When I graduated from college in 96, I purchased a brand new 1996 Prelude Si VTEC (the first Prelude with the VTEC technology, in 97 and thereon VTEC was in all of the Preludes til they stopped making them). I have never owned a Civic Si and was very happy when Honda decided to make a 4dr model. It allowed those my age and a lot older to enjoy the high revving 2.0 engine and still be able to transport the family. It truly is a great car and for the money, IMO, it can't be beat.
btw, I'm with you, I really dig the iVTEC decals!
#198 of 487 No sticker for me
Jun 25, 2007 (10:36 am)
I've had my Rallye Red Civic Si Sedan for a week now. Just a great car. I'm 34 with a baby on the way so it's the best compromise for me. Fun to drive, safe, rear doors and seats for the baby. No complaints whatsoever.
I may be in the small minority but I peeled off the silly i-VTEC stickers off the sides. Took nearly an hour since some adhesive didn't wanna come off. But much cleaner look.
I don't need to advertise to every rice boy out there in their mom's Camry looking to race. Plus doesn't every car manufacturer use some form of VTEC now?
#199 of 487 Re: Cold hesitation is normal [cz75]
Jun 25, 2007 (11:45 am)
So you have also experienced this hesitation, particularly when the car is cold? The Drive by Wire/ECU programming is the issue. After reading that this car has DBW, I'm not to familiar with the Drive by wire function.
#200 of 487 Re: hesitation, age of drivers [eldaino]
Jun 25, 2007 (11:49 am)
I'm 35 and have always been a Civic fan. I owned an EX in 2000 Auto trans. and didn't have the 160 hp SI that year because they didn't have the color I wanted when I bought it. I drove a friend of mines 1999 5 speed SI and it ran just like my 2000 EX with more punch of course. No hesitation. This DBW, what is the purpose of this? Do you own the New SI with DBW as well / 2 or 4 door? I'm assuming you experience this hesitation as well. Thanks for your reply.
Jun 25, 2007 (3:07 pm)
aaron, I don't think that the slight top off does anything to the mileage... i always fill it to about 1/4 gal over the click-off, so as long as it's consistent, it shouldn't affect it... i think...
eldaino, like I said ealier, I'm 20 years old and a senior in college. This is my first honda (actually my first car at all), but my parents owned an early-90's model of the Accord a long time ago... I'm largely unfamiliar with any brand, let alone a certain model... I'm only now becoming more familiar with cars, and particularly the Si's, as I've been researching cars for the last 7-ish months.
And yea, I agree with you and some of the others... I like the i-vtech sticker on the side... at first I didn't, but it's grown on me. If you've got it, flaunt it.
#202 of 487 Re: hesitation, age of drivers [civiclove1]
Jun 25, 2007 (3:25 pm)
Im 28yrs old and my last car was an 02 Civic si hatchback which I also bought new. Ive had my silver Si Sedan (FA5)for about 10 days now and I couldnt be happier. Its a fantastic car for the money and Im loving the gas mileage. It actually gets better mileage then my 02 Si did, I was shocked. Having 4 doors is really nice too and most of the time you dont even realize its a 4 door until you look behind you.
I do notice the hesitation on the gas pedal when going from a stop. The pedal just doesnt register quick enough and you end up engaging the clutch too quickly before it starts to rev. Also when you want to ride the revs down instead of using the brakes, the car doesnt decelerate right away. It holds the revs (aka Rev Hang) causing the car to continue to accelerate when your foot is off the pedal for a split second. It was very annoying at first but the more I drive it the more I learn to adjust to it.
#203 of 487 tire pressure v. fuel economy
Jun 25, 2007 (4:48 pm)
Just a random thought, while browsing a couple other forums, I noticed a few people mention fuel economy and tire pressure in the same breath. I was just curious if anyone knew about what sort of relationship there was between the two? I know that if your tires are 5-6 psi low, you'll take a hit in economy, but what about being 5-6 over? Or sticking right at the recommended?
#204 of 487 Re: tire pressure v. fuel economy [kork13]
Jun 26, 2007 (3:35 am)
Running with low tire pressure will decrease gas milage, more rolling resistance. You can increase tire pressure to create less resistance, but if you over or under-inflate tires, it will cause premature wear and a possiblity of over heating the tires and cause a blow-out.
Best bet, follow the recommended tire pressure. For long stretches of highway, and highspeed, driving there probably is a higher recommended pressure. You'd have to look that up in the owners manual and see what Honda recomends.
Kork, I just asked about over filling, becuase it could cause an inconsistency. If one time you fill to the 1st click, then squeeze in an extra .5-1 gallon of gas. Then stop 150 miles later, refuel and stop at the first click, and don't add any more fuel, it would look like you barely used any fuel at all. It could skew the numbers higher or lower.
Regarding the hesitation, I've noticed it on warm-up also. But I just chalked it up to owning a vehicle with an aluminum motor. Aluminum expands alot when it gets hot. So, until it reaches operating temps nothing is meshing as it should. My take anyway...
On odd occasions, I hit a slight stumble pulling out in 1st gear. But I think that's more driver related than anything. I feel the same thing driving our 2.0, manual, New Beetle on odd occasions. And that still has a throttle cable. Just a 4 banger that's not particular torquey at low RPMs.
#205 of 487 Re: hesitation, age of drivers [eldaino]
Jun 26, 2007 (4:05 am)
This is my first Honda. I know a tiny, little bit about the SI models heritage. A few friends have owned SI models and those cars were always fun to ride around in.
The i-vtec stickers will not be removed from my car! The SI model is very low key, in my opinion. Unless you are an enthusist, the general public just sees it as Civic.
I've always been a fan of low-cost, factory built hot-rods. The Civic was the best choice out of all the cars out today.
4 doors, naturally aspirated, low cost of ownership, high resale, good price... Plus a high-reving, high-tech engine (you gotta love an 8k redline!) And it loves to be thrown around on the back roads.
The only other vehicle we seriously considered, in this catagory, was the Focus ST/Mazda 3 (not the Mazda Speed 3). While both were decent, the Focus STs I chcked out stickered at nearly 20k, hard to find, and, in comparison to the Civic, out of date. Fun cars to toss around. But the limits were nowhere near the SIs.
#206 of 487 Re: No sticker for me [tfm1973]
Jun 26, 2007 (8:16 am)
why does having that sticker on mean you want to race? many si's have had this decal, it would be blasphemy with out it! you possess one of the most advanced mass marketed engines out there, wear it with pride!
a ricer is a ricer if you make it one, there is nothing 'ricey' about the si in that regards. The si looks clean enough as it is. i can think of a ton of other cars that you could have chosen that are sporty other than the si to avoid this althogether.
Plus doesn't every car manufacturer use some form of VTEC now?
no not really actually. you'd be suprised how very few cars used varible timing and dual over head cams on their engines. they do exist, but they don't have it down to an art the way honda does. they pioneered the technology!