Last post on Dec 05, 2013 at 6:12 PM
You are in the Honda Accord Coupe
What is this discussion about?
Honda Accord, Coupe, Sedan
Feb 05, 2013 (9:30 am)
Truth be told is that this forum is called "Honda prices paid and buying experience". One of the goals is to get an idea how much are people paying for the car that you are looking for and learn from other people's experiences (whether good or bad). Get as much information as possible about the car u are buying and hopefully make and informed decision.
In addition, must of us, would make sure our credit is perfect before we buy. Then we get pre-approved to avoid being on the spot the day of the purchase. We read, read and read. Some of us would have a spread sheet to see the prices paid during a period of time and where those people bought their car from and how was their experience when buying from those dealerships. I can go on and on, but the bottom line I think that most of us are putting a lot of time and effort to get a decent end result = a good and affordable price for a big purchase and “long term investment”. I could say that we put a lot more time and effort than the average buyer; wouldn’t IsellHonda agree that perhaps we deserve that better price after all our effort?
And by the way, we are not “stealing” from the dealerships, we for the most part will get a long term loan that we are stuck paying for, but hopefully after doing our math, we are comfortable paying for on a monthly basis.
And the price of that car, is something we both agree to. So, no need to pretend here that dealerships are being victimized or being taken advantage of. Dealers always make profit or in very rare exceptions, they cut even.
They are not charitable institutions and every sales person is not Mother Theresa either. Not too many people can say that they worked for a dealership for many years. In fact, every time I do an oil change I can for the most part say I will see a bunch of new faces in the sales department.
I can only say that those that don’t agree or can not live with the fact that we put a decent and honest effort in to this process, are wasting their time monitoring what we say here.
For those that are afraid that we pay too little for a car, should also make sure that every time they pay for something in the store, or when the buy a house, or airplane ticket, etc, they pay the “sticker price” or close enough, so that everyone makes profit and no one winds up “grinding.” No coupons, sales, allowed for them .
#28395 of 32172 Re: Prices paid [mvperez4jesus]
Feb 05, 2013 (10:00 am)
Also, not every customer will do extensive research and that is on them. Dealerships know this and make great profits everyday.
I know if I were in the business of selling cars, I would not want certain information to be leaked out to the public because that would interfere with my salary. I get it. Hopefully, the salesman earns my respect and I may send others his or her way.
My salesman was respectful after all was said and done. I did refer a friend to him but he was not able to offer the same deal I received. Maybe this will change by the end of the month or maybe my tactics and timing worked for my advantage.
In the end, the customer should do all they can to save a buck or two; the salesman has the challenge of getting what they can. It's business, and that's the game!
#28396 of 32172 Re: I love playing the game [isellhondas]
Feb 05, 2013 (10:50 am)
Let's put it this way: If you are not grinding on them, the "miserable" grinders in sales are grinding on you!
Besides I only spend 30 mins on it anyway. I give them a price, and if they don't say yes in 30 mins I'm out of there.
They always call me back and say yes later
#28397 of 32172 Re: Prices paid [jjjaymmman]
Feb 05, 2013 (11:02 am)
Yes, like I said, is all good business. In the past, I had been able to help some good friends getting a decent price or at least better than the price they would normally get.
But at the same time, I had other friends that asked me to help them, and ended up doing the easy thing for them. They went to their local dealer on an impulse driven day and got a car they were not even looking for, for thousands more that were added to the high interest loan they got from their family friendly dealership.
And then again, I am not victimizing or vilifying anyone, it was a deal that both the dealership and the person agreed to. So yes, putting some time and effort before you buy anything in life pays at the end.
#28398 of 32172 Re: I love playing the game [isellhondas]
Feb 05, 2013 (11:32 am)
Your loyalty to the car salesman is evident. If I retired from that profession I'd feel the same way; and cudo's to you for doing so well.
Your comment of "my wonderful loyal customers who weren't afraid they just might pay a dollar more than someone else did" further solidifies your interest and sales skills. If I didn't know better, I'd say this comment was a sales tactic for a customer to give away more money to a salesman and feel good about it. Heck, I'd say the same thing if I were working in that field.
But, I totally disagree with this tactic in this forum. I do not make it a secret that my opinion in this forum is solely for the customers advantage. Why don't you pass on the skills and expertise you would to one of your family member, or did they pay extra too?
I do agree with you that despite any ups or downs for any vehicle on the market that Honda does overall produce an excellent product. After months of research and comparing, I found the Accord V6 best suited my needs which may differ for others. Overall, price was right, options were excellent, and they hold their value well which is everything I was looking for.
#28399 of 32172 Re: Prices paid [jjjaymmman]
Feb 05, 2013 (1:34 pm)
When you lie about having a trade and then coyly spring it on them your salesperson will quickly lose all respect for you.
I have no problem with customers looking for a great deal. My customers knew that I was on their side. It's the ones that would step over the line that I had no use for.
Funny...it really doesn't have to be a difficult process.
#28400 of 32172 Re: I love playing the game [jjjaymmman]
Feb 05, 2013 (1:39 pm)
What a lot of shoppers don't realize is the fact that the price can be a moving target. If a store has a huge inventory of V-6 Accords and a lot more in transit and nowhere to park them, of course, anything go's.
On the other hand, if there is little to zero inventory and the incoming pipeline is fairly empty, a store would be foolish to do a nothing deal.
People come to these forums and read about what one person in a differnt part of the country paid and assume they can do the same thing.
Maybe, maybe not. Also some of these so called "prices paid" may not be accurate when all is considered. Things like trade value, doc fee charges etc.
#28401 of 32172 Re: Prices paid [isellhondas]
Feb 05, 2013 (3:50 pm)
TY, generally I'm not looking to buy a car and make a friend. If the salesman loses my respect I will not lose sleep over this.
It is my wallet that I am trying to protect.
This tactic has never failed me in the past and it usually throws off the salesman. I chosse to play my cards how I see fit. My money, my control. They do not have to accept the deal.
#28402 of 32172 Lets make this Accord specific
by kyfdx@Edmunds HOST
Feb 05, 2013 (4:09 pm)
We have a load of discussions about buying strategies...
This forum is to report specifics on shopping for a Honda Accord, and the price you paid..
Let's get back to it..