Last post on Dec 05, 2013 at 6:45 AM
You are in the Honda Accord Coupe
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Honda Accord, Coupe, Sedan
#28378 of 32169 I love playing the game
Feb 04, 2013 (2:09 pm)
...and I like to really get a good deal when car shopping. There are plenty of buyers who do nothing but pay invoice or higher and that's where the dealerships make their money. The net has killed a lot of the sales tricks that isellhonda used to retire but still in person the dealerships know that a lot of people are not comfortable with negotiation.
Now as far as the vehicle, the 2013 Accord is a great car (for a mid-size sedan), and holds it's resale well. It's a great car to lease. And because Honda is always pressured by Toyota who likes to give away the Camry, and because it's a volume seller, you can always get great deals. Below Truecar for sure. I would say by the end of February if you are not getting 1k below invoice on an Accord, you just aren't even trying.
And I'm ok with then letting the dealership then make a few bucks on adding leather or something like that. Just remember that the dealership doesn't take negotiation personally, so you shouldn't either.
#28379 of 32169 Re: Should be even better in coming months... [mvperez4jesus]
Feb 04, 2013 (2:27 pm)
That's something new! Good for them!
#28380 of 32169 Re: Should be even better in coming months... [mvperez4jesus]
Feb 04, 2013 (2:30 pm)
Honda does something to support our troops yet they can't win!?
You think it's "outrageous and totally unfair" because they didn't include anyone who ever served in the military??
I don't think it's unfair at all and I DID serve.
If I was Honda I would feel like I had been slapped in the face.
But, that's me...
#28381 of 32169 Re: I love playing the game [zigster38]
Feb 04, 2013 (2:32 pm)
Question for you....
WHY would ANY merchant sell ANYTHING just to lose money especially if the item in question is a strong seller?
I just don't understand, that's all.
#28382 of 32169 Re: Should be even better in coming months... [isellhondas]
Feb 04, 2013 (3:10 pm)
I would have to type a page to perhaps a book to make my point a little more clear. But, I don't have the time and this is not the forum to do so.
Anyway, is just my personal opinion and nothing else.
#28383 of 32169 Re: I love playing the game [isellhondas]
Feb 04, 2013 (3:20 pm)
Well you would have to ask your sales manager about that . Although you know the answer already. Because the merchant still makes money, of course.
I imagine that there aren't many times when a dealer sells a vehicle at true cost. End of month, end of year....even then there are are holdbacks, doc profits, add-on profits etc.
If you sell 90% of your cars at a profit, and 10% at breakeven, the dealership still makes $.
So why do they sell honda's at 1k under invoice or more? Because they can
#28384 of 32169 Re: I love playing the game [zigster38]
Feb 04, 2013 (4:09 pm)
Today sales people are on little salary. Some may be getting as little as 100 dollars per car sold. With incentives and bonuses if you could sell 25 to 40 cars a month you might do okay. Otherwise the fat cats/ upper management / owners are making the dough. I'm sure the ratio of profit to break even on cars is very lopsided. Sansone auto mall in N.J. is a perfect example. The old man has his own private Jet. Filthy rich. Not only is he miserable with all that money his own son wont speak to him any more. Try buying a car at that dirt bag dealership..Sansone will rob you blind if your not smart.. i have no love loss for most of these dealerships. dealers like to prey on the weak and misinformed making money hand over fist..
#28385 of 32169 Re: 2013 Accord Touring SDN Black on Black purchase [brian125]
Feb 04, 2013 (6:03 pm)
Brian, originally typed in but scratched out and hand written in for what i negotiated. The wife and I were looking at the sport models but I was not going to pass up the deal on the touring. The touring only gives you led head lights, acc which is nice. I with the other guys you can get a better GPS but the voice commands on this one work really well.
#28386 of 32169 Re: 2013 Accord Touring SDN Black on Black purchase [brian125]
Feb 04, 2013 (7:47 pm)
1st Thank you Brain and all that support the military as well as all who have served.
2nd, I think prior military deserves the same opportunities as active/reserve and 1st responders (police, fireman, ect) in terms of a discount (viewed as a honor). Our veterans have paved the way for us to follow and I thank you for your service!
3rd, if I had to repeat my 18 years of service knowing the time lost with my family, missed holidays, and the loss of dear friends I'd do it all over again! Why? For the honor and respect to be an American soldier, fighting for who we are as a nation with the freedom and liberty to be AMERICANS.
Oh, if I could make one simple change today, I'd bring back the pledge of allegiance in schools. Not for religious or political reasons, just as a custom to American pride and respect as a united nation.
#28387 of 32169 Re: I love playing the game [isellhondas]
Feb 04, 2013 (8:39 pm)
This is the trick dealers usually play. The reality is 1. dealers will never tell you the true price point where they make or lose money and 2. no one is forcing them to sell the car at any price. On the contrary, when they are saying this, most likely they are trying very hard to sell you the car.
Someone was asking earlier what is the reasonable amount of profit a dealer should make on each car. I'd say it all depends on the market. If there is a hot car selling at MSRP everywhere, you just have to pay at that level. In other situations, dealers make money because customers don't have all the price information.
Generally speaking, buyers should call or request quotes from a few dealerships from a wide region just to feel the market. My experience is that dealerships located farther from downtowns or population centers are usually cheaper because of lower land costs and possibly lower labor costs. Also, this forum is a good starting point for feeling the market too. I got very helpful tips about what price I should be looking at on this forum.