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73 messages,  Last post on Feb 28, 2006 at 5:29 AM

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What is this discussion about? Lexus LS 460, Lexus GS 450h, Lexus GX 470

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#64 of 73 Re: Pricing [john500] by dmclone

Feb 24, 2006 (6:57 am)

Replying to: john500 (Feb 23, 2006 2:25 pm)
Maybe you should check your math. By the time you add all the options the average BMW is a LOT more $$$. Compare a loaded 7 series to a loaded LS. Compare a loaded GS to a loaded 5 series.

#65 of 73 Re: Pricing [john500] by black_tulip

Feb 24, 2006 (8:34 am)

Replying to: john500 (Feb 23, 2006 2:25 pm)
If I want 95 % of the driving experience of a Lexus, I can buy a Toyota Avalon at a much reduced price.
 
Once again, you seem to be stuck at "driving experience" being the only factor in purchasing decisions. Lexus offers an exclusivity, dealer experience, customer service that Toyota does not match.

#66 of 73 supra by sigt1

Feb 24, 2006 (8:43 am)

will be freakin nuts... wow
 
toyota will destroy all competition yet again as it always does
 
luxury, sport, truck, standard
 
no stopping toyota...

#67 of 73 Re: camry and NASCAR [stevekilburn] by merc1

Feb 24, 2006 (10:16 am)

Replying to: stevekilburn (Feb 24, 2006 12:09 am)
No, I don't. I'll re-word that, I don't ever seem them putting a V8 in a Camry.
 
BMW being the ultimate driving machine isn't so because they don't have the best racing record? Ok. I think you've missed a big part of why BMW and any other car company goes racing. You don't have to outright win every race to gain the techincal experience from racing. The new V10 in the M6 and M5 are stunning engines partly because of this experience, regardless of whether or not they won. Why do you think Toyota is in F1? To gain whatever experience/know how that they can and apply it to a production vehicle in some way.
 
M

#68 of 73 Re: camry and NASCAR [merc1] by socala4

Feb 24, 2006 (11:35 am)

Replying to: merc1 (Feb 24, 2006 10:16 am)
BMW being the ultimate driving machine isn't so because they don't have the best racing record? Ok. I think you've missed a big part of why BMW and any other car company goes racing. You don't have to outright win every race to gain the techincal experience from racing. The new V10 in the M6 and M5 are stunning engines partly because of this experience, regardless of whether or not they won. Why do you think Toyota is in F1? To gain whatever experience/know how that they can and apply it to a production vehicle in some way.
 
Exactly. And to add to that, what wins races (a lot of which is based upon the quality of the driving team, anyway) is not necessarily going to make a car a good daily driver.
 
Enthusiasts like BMW's because they offer a great balance of performance and handling packaged in what is generally a fairly practical, attractive and enjoyable car (price-independent, of course). Being the absolutely fastest thing on the track does not necessarily mean that the production car is going to be particularly desirable to drive or own.

#69 of 73 Re: Rayng [rayng] by ths1

Feb 25, 2006 (7:21 am)

Replying to: rayng (Feb 23, 2006 5:43 pm)
Just to add my 2 cents to drfil and rayng's postings as to pricing and discounts between German (BMW and MB) and Lexus. I just purchased a GX 470 after doing a significant amount of work comparing the X5 (with the 6 cylinder), the ML 350 and the LX 470. I thought all 3 fit my needs very well and it came down to pricing. What I found, after about 2 months worth of shopping in the Chicago, Milwaukee and Madison areas, the best I could do was 3% off of list pricing on the BMW and ML-350. I was able to purchase the Lexus with a list price of just over $51M for $44,500 on a cash deal.(including all dealer costs. Not including tax, title and license fees.) I ended up buying the vehicle from a dealer who owned franchises for all three makes. Little wiggle room on the German cars for what ever reason. BMW had a 2.9% financing arrangement going on which might have been some reason for the lack of willingness. I also understand that Lexus might have had some cash back $$s to the dealer. Didn't mean to barge in on your conversation.

#70 of 73 Re: Pricing [black_tulip] by john500

Feb 27, 2006 (5:41 am)

Replying to: black_tulip (Feb 24, 2006 8:34 am)
Once again, you seem to be stuck at "driving experience" being the only factor in purchasing decisions. Lexus offers an exclusivity, dealer experience, customer service that Toyota does not match.
 
Let me see if I understand this correctly. You purchase automobiles for reasons OTHER than the driving experience? OK, dude. No hope here.

#71 of 73 Re: Pricing [john500] by black_tulip

Feb 27, 2006 (6:14 am)

Replying to: john500 (Feb 27, 2006 5:41 am)
Let me see if I understand this correctly. You purchase automobiles for reasons OTHER than the driving experience? OK, dude. No hope here.
 
First, we are not talking about me, but the car buying population in general.
 
Second, "driving experience" is NOT THE ONLY FACTOR in those decisions made by the masses.
 
I have that is clear.

#72 of 73 I'd buy a Lexus LS 460 by rockylee

Feb 28, 2006 (5:29 am)

I'd buy or should I say would like to own a Lexus LS 460 or LS 600 over anything made in Europe. This car is truely "inferior" !!!!!
  Oops did I just say that ?
 
Rocky

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