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Lincoln Zephyr, Lincoln MKS, Lincoln MKX
#4042 of 4170 Re: I saw something today [lemko]
Feb 26, 2013 (8:05 am)
Good God, yet another fine car nameplate being dragged through the mud! Why don't they call it what it is - A TOWN TRUCK!
In reality, the Lincoln Town Car wasn't a town car at all. A true town car had an open driver compartment.
As for the MKT Town Car - it's marketing son...
#4043 of 4170 Re: I saw something today [lemko]
Feb 26, 2013 (8:08 am)
Are they going to make an extended wheelbase XTS?
Cadillac is offering versions of the XTS to the professional vehicle industry that are ready for extending. The XTS-L can be stretched up to 8", the XTS Limo can be stretched up to 80". There is also an XTS Hearse that can be converted.
#4044 of 4170 Re: Lincoln MKX [e_net_rider]
Feb 26, 2013 (10:16 am)
e net rider: I did not mean to become so divergent, merely point out Lincoln the man has nothing to do with cars.
Lincoln was named for Abraham Lincoln. Henry M. Leland, who founded Lincoln, greatly admired Abraham Lincoln. When he had the chance to start a new car company, he chose to name the firm after him.
#4045 of 4170 Re: Lincoln MKX [keystonecarfan]
Feb 26, 2013 (11:05 am)
And an interesting side note is that Leland founded both Cadillac and Lincoln.
Feb 28, 2013 (4:59 pm)
And another interesting fact is that Henry named his second car (Cadillac being his first) after the first President he had ever voted for.
#4047 of 4170 Re: I saw something today [lemko]
Feb 28, 2013 (5:11 pm)
One would think the Chrysler 300 would make for a natural limo conversion car as it still employs RWD.
There is a ton more (literally) engineering that goes into a Limo than a regular sedan - and the pre-production Limo has reinforced frames, extended cabling and wiring harnesses, bare interiors heavy duty components ready made for stretching, and warrantied by the manufacturer for such modification if done within the given parameters of the warranty. The base car is "prepared" for the stretch, as opposed to the normal Sedan sold to us. To my knowledge, Fiat/Chrysler doesn't offer a "Limo-ready" car for stretching. Ford is offering the MKT now, and some are being made - but I'm disappointed in them. They just don't look like a limo should to me. The old Town Car did. In fact, it looked better as a Limo (actually what it was DESIGNED to be) than a regular sedan to me.
GM is smart to try to take this market from Ford-if there was ever an opportunity - this would be it. The 300 would be a nice replacement as well, if it were engineered to be one. Someone ought to get in there, because I hear Lexus is preparing to offer the LS in Limo-ready form.
#4048 of 4170 Another month lost
Mar 03, 2013 (9:33 am)
Lincoln's February sales were down the most of any brand. At least they doubled the sales of MKZs from January. But they did outsell Volvo by 14 units, and sold more units than Fiat. A few more than the Mini brand too.
And the Ford brand continues to take up the slack for the company.
#4049 of 4170 Maybe to the land of weird
Mar 04, 2013 (5:47 am)
Yesterday I got the message to run the tests and send report, I chose yes.
Later that day my wife and I got home and I parked in drive. I lock vehicle via the keypad which has been having an anomaly for quite a while now. That is it don't always work on first, second, third, or more tries, but does eventually.
A few hours later my wife noticed a window open which certainly was not so when I shut down. I went and checked. The driver door was unlocked and all four windows were fully down. WTF? Anybody have an idea what is going on?
I had crazy things happening with the 11 Lacrosse as well. On that one I was very suspicious that it had something to do with that GM system where they can send code to your vehicle, unauthorized code! You know they have the capability to unlock, start and stop, and likely much more via their system whether you subscribe or not.
#4050 of 4170 Re: Another month lost [gregg_vw]
Mar 04, 2013 (6:38 am)
Gas mileage is still an important buyer decision. I had noticed improved ratings for the 3.7, 2013, along with boosted power. Sadly the Eco does not get better mileage, but worse. I understand, basically, the load added by moving to AWD, but the 3.7 AWD gets better mileage than the ECO.
Yesterday I clicked a couple of links to look at MKS options. Sadly I could not find the mileage rating for the ECO or even the power rating. With the number of buyers using internet for buying decisions, it is sad that such sites often have usuability issues. Add out-dated, erroneous, and fudged data, and brand loyalty fades.
It seems auto industry is following Boeing act of lieing about fuel usage so they can get a sale. Fortunately government regulations have an impact on fudging in auto industry.
It seems there has been the reduction of engine choices throughout the industry because of cost. I wonder if Ford/Lincoln are making best choices. A current engine that comes to mind is GM's 3.6L in a loaded 11 Lacrosse CXS. I have not seen a weight spec for my 10 MKS 3.7L FWD, but it was claimed the Lacrosse was ~4400 lbs. The MKS has more area on a front profile allowing for a little more drag.
The Lacrosse. My salesman told me he ran one to 148MPH. I can see that as possible because I was zooming past 130 when I let off. And it did not have much wind noise. And vehicle was very stable.
I would not try this with MKS because of stability and it just does not have near the power even though it was rated only a few horsepower apart. The following model year, over a year later from my build, GM significantly increased horsepower and CAFE numbers stayed the same.
The MKS 3.7, running similar speeds, gets about 2 MPG less on highway and similar in local driving.
I certainly have to suspect the powertrain, engine/tranny, as the main difference. There are definitely tecnological differences between the engines. GM had major issues with that engine in earlier models, especially timing chains. I have not heard of any longevity issues yet, although direct injection and the direct EGR via the exhaust valves would be a question in my mind. Simply because those are new developments, but also those who have been testing their used oil find high gasoline content. There are a number of threads concerning that issue and it seems to be common to engines using direct injection. I have not checked if ECOBoost engine has same finding. Perhaps they have found a way to compensate what certainly would have caused premature wearout a decade or more ago.
Will Lincoln find it's own powerplants?
#4051 of 4170 Re: Maybe to the land of weird [e_net_rider]
Mar 04, 2013 (7:12 am)
You accidentally pressed and help the unlock button on the remote which activated the global open feature. Happens a lot.