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Replying to: hlt1634 (Nov 07, 2009 7:46 am) |
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Wow, just spent some time looking at reviews of dealers in my area (NJ) - can they all be that bad? Given that people who complain are more motivated to comment than those satisfied: Can anyone recommend a good Subaru NJ dealer for service? Can anyone recommend a dealer Tristate or PA that is good to buy from? Thanks BG
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Hey Car man. First, let me congratulate you on helping people here(CarSpace)with their buying/lease experiences. We want to get the 2010 2.5i Limited (CVT trani 29 miles/galon  ). We currently have a 7 seat 2008 Nissan Pathfinder, which we love the ride (3 small kids ) but, it's a little too big, almost never use the 3rd row & also "want to save some gas money". Our present lease(289/month) it's in a very good standing & expiring next Feb 2010. Nissan offer us a "Loyalty Customer offer" this offer from Nissan says that they pretty much will take care/void the remainder 3 present lease payment if we "buy or re-lease" another 2010 nissan Pathfinder. But like I said before this time we want to get out of this lease for the reason stated before (too big, gas, & also we just went over the miles..& calculate by next february we'll go over by ~4-5K miles..:-/). 1st Question; Do you think that we just should wait until next February & pay the excess miles (& also spend more money in gas per week & accumulate a lots of miles on our trip to NC we have next Thanksgiving..! :-O )? 2nd Question; Finance(we prefer to own/finance this time) or Lease(we do like the "lower" payments from leasing) the Subaru now & let them add the total cost of the 3 remainder of payments (~...900 :-/)? I do have some "offers" from 2 dealers in NJ(work there & leave in NY) but their offers or "their deals" still seem a little "high" to me after doing price research on the same 2.5 limited model. One dealer gave my a "discounted total price of "28,668"+doc & tax, etc fees. The other dealer was a little more "reasonable" I think...27,140 (destination included) + Doc, tax & MV fees. They are not really "discounting" any price(from 27,140 offer) because i checked on the Subaru Web site the price of the same model and it came out to be the same as the second "better price" of 27,140( if you add their Doc, state tax, MV fees) so really it seems to me that they are not discounting anything or very little...:-/. I thought that i read here in CarSpace that some people got really decent discounts (at least ~2-4k discount from invoice)? We want low payments but it seem that every dealer we go they want A lot of money down(~4k even for lease!) and high payments(above 300/month)...they totally disregard/not honor that we have good credit & have been good customers with the present and previous leases & finances...:-/. I think we have to make a decision soon. 3rd. Question: Can someone recommend a decent & good dealer that have ethical , honest people in their dealer around NJ, PA or NY areas, that are willing to negotiate a good total price so that payments are low (include all those stupid fees too,etc)??? I'm considering also an auto Broker..because I'm getting tired of dealing with a lot of crooked people from these "dealers" i have encountered...>:-/ 
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Replying to: britgeezer (Nov 07, 2009 9:21 pm) First I went to my local dealer, Welsh Subaru in Limerick  , but they said if I ordered a car from them they could not give me the VIP(invoice) price until it came in? Saying that Subaru changes pricing every month??? Then they refused to lock in a price for the extended warranty...wanting $2400 for a 6 yr, 100k mile plan! And then telling me some bogus story about how the price could jump $400 in a month - so they couldn't guarantee me a price. Then we talked about my trade in, they offered me $1500 less than what I wanted and again said they would have to re-evaluate when the ordered car came in - hinting that it could lose significantly more. The whole experience was sad, plus it was the sales manager who fed us all this crap. So I walked away from them and never looked back. Next and final stop - Rafferty Subaru in Newtown Square, PA. I called first and talked to a salesmen. Told them I would pay invoice (we had VIP pricing), that I already knew I would need to order due to the add-ons I wanted, that I would not pay a penny more that $1500 for the extended warranty (Gold 6yr, 100k miles), and that they needed to give me a fair price for my trade-in. They said no problem. I went in they gave me $100 over what I wanted for my trade AND locked in the price, they also locked in the ext warranty price and were able to tell me how much my OB would be, even though I ordered it - shocking right? It was a smooth painless experience. The salesperson I worked with was "Skip". He was very easy going, they all were. They also have an A rating with the BBB. I'll post more in a month or so when I go in to take my new Sube home....can't wait! If you call Skip - tell him Noelle sent you. 
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Replying to: britgeezer (Nov 07, 2009 5:13 pm) |
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Hey Sweetsoul, Very curious to know; -1st of all; Want to know how much exactly "total invoice price" did you pay for your Subi + destination? (docs fees are different form dealers & taxes are also different form state to state...:-/ ) -What is the exact Outback model you got? -Did you pay the whole thing or you financed your ordered Outback? & if you did Finance; What is the amount of your monthly payments & how much you put down(if you did)? & If finance or lease please; length of your term. What were your Tax, doc, & DM fee? Thanks. P.S. To Hit1634, I believe; Destination(if not included in the "Invoice price" or "whatever price you pay") + Document(They all freaking charge this one, hate it & does not make much sense to me! >:-/) + MV(motor vehicle, you don't have to, but if you want them to do it) + of course "whatever gas money" expense especially if you leave far or in another neighboring state..
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| Any recent purchases of a 2.5i or 2.5i Premium in Colorado? Also any news on new incentives for November? Heading in to drive a 2010 today to see how the CVT feels. | |
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HELLOOoo...please, anyone here got a good price (invoice at least or lower than invoice price) for A 2.5i LIMITED MODEL??? Getting ready to buy/lease but no one here seem to help with accurate price info of someone actually buying or lease recently(hopefully from NY, NJ or PA) Anyone knows of how to get it cheaper from some car selling web sites(i heard some people before ~1-2 years ago that they got it cheaper from some sites...but right now I can't get in touch with them...:-/)?
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Replying to: robertwarrior (Nov 09, 2009 2:38 pm) Even if you do not intend to drive 250 miles to pick it up you will still have the lowest documented sale price to throw in the faces of your local guys who will have to either match that price or lose your business. There are greedy dealers who could care less what X dealer is selling their cars for but you don't want to even waste your time with them. Dealers get money from Subaru for EVERY car they sell or lease and also for meeting certain sales goals. Dealers do not want to lose business to their competitors who will get those bonuses instead of them. FYI: Invoice price is not the price the dealer owns the car for. Invoice is the price that the manufacturer thinks the dealer should be able to sell the car for and still make a nice profit. I would guess the Subaru dealers actually own an Outback Limited for at least $1100 under invoice and then get 2% of the MSRP as dealer holdback. A GREAT DEAL would be $1000 under invoice in my opinion.
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