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#1 of 18277 2002 TRAILBLAZER (ENVOY, BRAVADA) by baddestbob1 Jan 02, 2001 (4:34 pm)
Chewy Trailblazer and siblings GMC Envoy, Old Bravado doesn't have a spot on Town Hall that I can find, before this post. Edmunds ran a first drive report about 12-21-00 and there is some info on the official Chevrolet web site. My insight is that this is a completely new platform meant to go head to head with the Explorer. I believe it will be smaller/cheaper than Tahoe (etc). Chewy has a brochure, mostly blitz, no spews, you can get from web site. Brochure does mention and web site heavily emphasizes new 270hp straight 6 engine. 6400 l. tow capacity, other stuff. This is 5 passenger SUV, 3rd row not apparently going to be available. Engine runs on regular gas, 275 b. torque 3600 rpm. I think these SUVs will be MAJOR influence and maybe heat UP competition and bring DOWN prices. Due this spring. What do you think? Replies to this message: 4runner10 (Jun 18, 2004 10:11 pm) mytrip2 (Jun 19, 2004 6:06 am) 4runner10 (Jun 19, 2004 11:45 pm)
#2 of 18277 thoughts on new(2002)trailblazer,etc by boat10 Jan 03, 2001 (2:03 pm)
interested in new suv from gm. where can one find more detailed info on the new ones. have talked to my dealer and they have no info on hand as of yet. my 3 year lease runs out in march 2001. now have a 1998 s-10 blazer, really taking a hard look at the 2002. like the body style (only seen pictures)on Edmunds!!! any help would be appreciated.
#3 of 18277 Trailblazer info, post 2 by baddestbob1 Jan 03, 2001 (2:53 pm)
Go to Chevy web site and check concept cars and/or Trailblazer, you can order brochure online
#4 of 18277 TrailBlazer and Envoy Info by ejz Jan 03, 2001 (5:04 pm)
The Chevy sight has some interesting stuff. For raw information (although not quite as much as I would like), the GMC (www.gmc.com and click on the Envoy link) sight has more.   I do like these, and the 2002 Explorer/Mountaineer. I think GM missed out by not having 7 passenger seating available this year. Although it does sound like they have the best engine of all of the mid-sized SUV's.
#5 of 18277 2002 trailblazer, envoy, bravada by jblaze13 Jan 03, 2001 (7:15 pm)
I think the Envoy is definitely the better looking of the three. Somebody scared the explorer designers with with a picture of the last Taurus. I don't think they could have been more conservative.
#6 of 18277 Envoy looking good. by pwash19 Jan 03, 2001 (7:50 pm)
For anyone interested I had an opportunity this past weekend to attend the Auto show in Washington DC and they had the 2002 Envoy and Trailblazer on display. Being an unhappy owner of a 1998 Blazer I can tell you that the Blazer has not been my best friend. With that said, looking at the two SUV's on display the Envoy would be my choice of the two from an appearance standpoint only. Very sharp SUV. I am, lets say, more than cautious when I think about my next purchase or about recommending someone to look at anything being produced by GM until they have made a commitment to quality and have a proven record to back it up. It has been an exhausting 2 years running to the dealer for repairs. Everyone always says not to buy a new model for the first two years so the bugs can be worked out. I say that is a good rule to follow in this case. Boat10, have you had quality problems with your 98 Blazer?
#7 of 18277 by dindak Jan 04, 2001 (5:38 am)
Current Blazer has had it's share of problems and it is an old design, but everyone I know who has one personally is generally happy. The new Trailblazer looks amazing and although I am a bit cautious with new designs, it couldn't be any worse than the Ford Escape. Trailblazer, Sautrn Vue, 02 Bravada, Pathfinder and Rodeo are on the top of my SUV shopping list next year.
#8 of 18277 reply to post #6 (pwash19) by boat10 Jan 04, 2001 (12:20 pm)
I've not had any real major problems. The only thing has been a oil cooler line that came loose....(WHAT A MESS) and they had too replace the muffler at 21000 miles! (baffales came undone inside the muffler), but all-in-all I've been very pleased with the vehicle. This is my 6th Blazer since they were introduced in 1983, and I guess I will continue to drive them.I really have a good dealer...someone you can trust...and he keeps me satisfied!!!!!!
#9 of 18277 A Good Dealer can sometimes be hard to find by pwash19 Jan 04, 2001 (8:12 pm)
Good point. If you have a dealer who is willing to go the extra steps to take care of you makes all the difference in the world. If you start to lose trust and faith in what the service department is telling you people will end up like myself after there warranty runs out. Going out and buying something "Made in Japan". The Blazer belongs to my wife. Me, I have a 2000 Nissan Frontier (yes, built in TN) that I bought in 99 that I drove off the lot new and has never been back in 17 month. This truck is tight, very solid. Nothing has come lose, fallen off or made unexplainable sounds like the Blazer. Boat10, I'm glad there are some out there as yourself that have had, and are having good service from their Blazer. I wish that I was one, we really do enjoy the look, size of our Blazer and it fits our needs. As for the 2002 Envoy, I really do want to look at this SUV but have a hard time getting past the GM badge on the front grill. Maybe this new model will prove me and others wrong. Surely Chevrolet monitors these Town Hall meetings and they read Consumer Reports magazine. The Blazer has taken a beating for several years now in the integrity, reliability department. They need to hit a HOME RUN with the 2002 and not make the same mistakes again that they made with the S-10 Blazer. The internet is quickly becoming a very powerful tool and automobile research for price and reliability is just one example of the consumer becoming more empowered. Sorry, way to long...
#10 of 18277 extended version in a few years! by greg116 Jan 05, 2001 (2:42 am)
Ive heard great things about the Trailblazer and might just sp[ring for one myself. Theres word going around that the Extended-wheelbase version big enough to compete with the Durango will come out as a 2003 model, complete with 3rd row seat. What happened to the old K-Blazers? I want one!

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