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#822 of 831 Re: Beware Re: Bought a (new) '09 Jetta TDI [moparbad] by longo2 Nov 17, 2009 (4:53 pm)
Replying to: moparbad (Nov 17, 2009 9:15 am) VW has been busy busy busy decontenting the Jetta since 2006. It's already a stripped down version of it's former self. The 2009's and 10's are the last of the Mark 5 line and I don't think they really gave a hoot. The Jetta is in the same bag as the Corolla, Mazda, Fiesta, Versa, Cavalier, and the list goes on...so getting out of that crowd is a must if VW is ever going to step up and start selling more cars. I think their game plan is a good one to do that, my only hope is that the new JettaCamryCord will be up to the job.   My 2006 Mark 5 is already an orphan in VW's line up, hate to see them bomb with it's new replacement.   You are right tho about all the possibilites of disaster considering very few of the new workers will know what the hell they are doing, and VW will be using the buyers of this untried model as road testers.   What could go wrong with that... Replies to this message: jswtdifan (Nov 17, 2009 5:14 pm) jswtdifan (Nov 18, 2009 9:08 am)
#823 of 831 Re: Beware Re: Bought a (new) '09 Jetta TDI [longo2] by jswtdifan Nov 17, 2009 (5:14 pm)
Replying to: longo2 (Nov 17, 2009 4:53 pm) Hi Longo - I don't know what you're talking about. While I have no experience with the 2006 Jetta, I did own (and have since sold) a Corolla from that vintage. Now I have the 2010 JSW TDI and it's a world of difference compared to the Toyota.   Satellite radio, bluetooth, 6 disk CD changer with IPOD interface and SD chip, 115V power supply, pano roof, leather multi-function steering wheel, high quality appearance inside and out, TDI with real world 30's in the city and 50mph highway, well designed controls and performance.   It's clear to me that the 2010 JSW TDI is not "in the same bag" as the cars you listed. The fact that VW lots are empty of this model suggests a lot of others agree with me on this one. I'm glad you're happy with your 2006, but I'd suggest you're wrong to disparage the newest JSW.
#824 of 831 Hope for the best, plan for the worst by longo2 Nov 17, 2009 (5:42 pm)
"Satellite radio, bluetooth, 6 disk CD changer with IPOD interface and SD chip, 115V power supply, pano roof, leather multi-function steering wheel, high quality appearance inside and out, TDI with real world 30's in the city and 50mph highway, well designed controls and performance". You have just listed most of the features of our 2007 Nissan Versa SL. but that's not what I meant when I compared the Jetta to the others in the pack. You see, the current Jetta is almost the exact same dimensions as all it's current completion. Going bigger will get than out of that crowed gang and give them a leg up considering the Polo will be coming in at VW's bottom end and should do well there with the Beetle TDI and Golf TDI in hatchback form . Then the new U.S. built VW model will be free to compete with the most popular and best selling sedan sizes on the road today..the Sonata, Malibu, Camry, and the Accord. (feel free to add all the other ones I have missed)   The question in my mind is VW up to the challenge of building a really great selling new, Jetta, (I doubt that's what they will even call it) considering they already have the bigger Passat, a kind of a sales dud, sitting on the showroom floors.   Hope your new JSW lasts forever. Replies to this message: m6user (Nov 17, 2009 9:23 pm) longo2 (Nov 17, 2009 10:03 pm)
#825 of 831 Re: Hope for the best, plan for the worst [longo2] by m6user Nov 17, 2009 (9:23 pm)
Replying to: longo2 (Nov 17, 2009 5:42 pm) Are you sure the new "american midsize" VW is going to replace the Jetta? I thought I read somewhere that the Passat(slow sales as you say) was the car being replaced. Replies to this message: longo2 (Nov 17, 2009 10:03 pm)
#826 of 831 Re: Hope for the best, plan for the worst [m6user] by longo2 Nov 17, 2009 (10:03 pm)
Replying to: m6user (Nov 17, 2009 9:23 pm) You might be right, I found this quote among other VW Car-Gossip on the net..   "The so-called NMS or New Midsize Sedan will replace the Passat in the US"   Could be they will just put the Passat out to pasture and see how the new..."NMS" works out. I don't think there would be much consumer backlash on that one...since thery stopped making the Passat TDI, especially in the beautiful Wagon model, who really cares?   A lot of speculation, but one things for sure, the Jetta as we know it is due for an update, one that some diehard Jetta fans won't like, but I think VW is looking for a new mass market that couldn't care less about the old VW Jetta's track record.   Get ready for BIGGER CUPHOLDERS!
#827 of 831 Re: Beware Re: Bought a (new) '09 Jetta TDI [longo2] by jswtdifan Nov 18, 2009 (9:08 am)
Replying to: longo2 (Nov 17, 2009 4:53 pm) "stripped down version of it's former self"; "don't think they really gave a hoot" - These are the comments that got my attention and disapproval. While the dimensions of the Versa and others are similar (excepting cargo of the JSW), I could not see considering any of those cars as comparable to the JSW TDI. Did I mention heated front seats and mirrors; roof racks; or virtually zero depreciation of the TDI?   As for getting out of that crowd, I think that's a mistake. VW needs a vehicle that leads the pack of these similarly sized cars (Polo is not a substitute here). The later posts and comments about the NMS are good comments - this is a new opportunity for VW to compete with the Accords, etc (between the Jetta and CC - and replacing Passat which failed in that mission).   See some NMS photos at this link: http://www.caranddriver.com/news/car/09q1/2011_2012_vw_passat_replacement_new_mi- d-size_sedan_nms_-car_news/gallery

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