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Volkswagen TDI Models: Prices Paid & Buying Experience

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Re: market adjustment [elias] by anowlan
Nov 03, 2009 (10:15 am)
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Replying to: elias (Nov 03, 2009 8:14 am)

I did my Golf TDI deal at MSRP. In this time of tight supply, high demand, I thought that was reasonable. Now, just waiting for it to arrive....
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2010 Jetta TDI Sedan or 2009 Passat by jingorm
Nov 03, 2009 (10:25 pm)
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I was able to negotiate a Jetta TDI for $500 below MSRP in the DC area. While at the dealership I asked what kind of deals they are offering on 09 Passat sedans. It appears that dealer and a few others in my area are selling them for 3000-6000 below MSRP or roughly 24-26k on a 29-31k MSRP car. The TDI MSRP is 25,945 and the deal is for 25,495.
 
I am buying this car for primarily for commuting as my growing family now needs a second car. Our other car is a BMW X3 which will be the kid-hauler. I like the idea of driving fuel efficient car and my commute is about 45 miles round trip. I also drive to NY/Boston 2-3 times a year. But the "deal" on the Passat is very attractive and the additional space, especially in the rear, would be helpful as my two kids grow out of their car seats.
 
Any insights on the pros and cons of each car relative to the other would be appreciated. I am especially interested in the historical long term reliability of both models. I also heard that you can use regular fuel in a Passat. Does that worsen the mileage on the car. That's what I was told about my BMW so I use premium, but my sister uses regular gas on her Audi A4 wagon.
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Just purchased base model Sportwagon TDI by krldrummerboy
Nov 09, 2009 (12:17 pm)
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Just bought mine in Santa Clara at Stevens Creek. It's a base base manual. I really enjoyed the test drive of the 6-speed manual. Lots of power!
 
It listed for $25,060 and they wanted $30,060. After 5 hours I got it for $27,060 + ~$200 for the rubber floor and trunk mats (they really wanted that $60 bucks, too). This was for a model that they had to bring in to california from texas. So, there were some import costs they had to incur. If I wanted the silver (instead of blue) one they had at the location I probably could have paid ~$500 - $700 less.
 
Also, I bought the extended 60k warranty for $1250 (down from $2200). That took a while, too. Wanted it for $800 but it wasn't in the cards
 
If anyone wants a manual silver TDI wagon with base options go to Steven Creek ASAP.
 
Can;t wait to pick it up at the end of the month.
 
How do you claim the $1300 tax credit????
 
Woohoo
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Re: market adjustment [jfish4] by puffin1
Nov 09, 2009 (4:28 pm)
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Replying to: jfish4 (Nov 03, 2009 7:42 am)

You're right!
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Re: market adjustment [elias] by jogousa
Nov 10, 2009 (4:18 pm)
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Replying to: elias (Nov 03, 2009 8:14 am)

In search for my rear windshield wipers I stopped at a local VW dealer (NW Florida) and asked if they have any TDIs on the lot. They had one Golf (formerly Rabbit) Tdi in stock and advised that there are no more coming until March 2010.
For the one on their lot (due to supply/demand) they want 2 to 3 K over MSRP... and they claim they can get it - that would translate into appx 28 K before taxes and fees.
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Re: Test drive? [oli1] by jogousa
Nov 10, 2009 (4:34 pm)
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Replying to: oli1 (Oct 31, 2009 12:45 pm)

I have 09 SportWagen Tdi (manual) and not long ago I took a ride in Tdi sedan with DSG automatic - I found sedan's suspension a bit stiffer than my Wagon. Other than that there is not much of a difference except Wagon has more space in the back.
 
I found the styling of Wagon "cool" (as some teens would comment) - it's no longer soccer mom's taxi-type vehicle (never been in Europe anyway). It's a good alternative to small SUV with much better mileage although I would prefer Subaru Forester diesel. Last thing I've heard is that Subaru doesn't have the right automatic transmission to match their diesels (Subaru diesels running the 2nd year in Europe all have manual transmissions).
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Re: Test drive? [jogousa] by longo2
Nov 10, 2009 (5:08 pm)
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Replying to: jogousa (Nov 10, 2009 4:34 pm)

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Hi Jogo,
 
Thought you might like to see the Subaru AWD Diesel wagon that they are quietly building at their plant in the U.S.A.
 
They ship them to Europe for sale over there.
 
 I think they are a 2 ltr, 258 ft pounds of torqe, diesel boxer engine that gets about the same mpg's as the Jetta TDI's.
 
If they ever go on sale in North America, that will be my next new car.
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Re: Test drive? [longo2] by gagrice
Nov 10, 2009 (7:25 pm)
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Replying to: longo2 (Nov 10, 2009 5:08 pm)

So close yet so far. I have to wonder if they are trying to meet the CARB diesel emissions or just using our cheap labor to build cars here. I would sure consider one if they are sold here. Good clearance and just about the right size. Someone needs to offer a CUV/SUV with a 4 cylinder diesel.
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Re: Test drive? [gagrice] by longo2
Nov 12, 2009 (9:21 pm)
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Replying to: gagrice (Nov 10, 2009 7:25 pm)

Right now I don't see Subaru working on meeting higher emission standards, the boxer diesel engine only meets tier 4 standards as a result of a lax emissions loophole for 4 wheel drive vehicles in the EU.
 
Here's a quick look at how that's going down in England.
 
"The European Federation for Transport and the Environment (T&E) strongly supports stronger emissions standards but regrets the weakness of the Euro 5 and 6 standards, notably as regards NOx emissions, which it says cause smog, respiratory problems and acid rain. The NGO also deplores the fact that four-wheel drive vehicles have been allowed an additional three year transition period before having to comply with the new rules. "The Parliament, in its 'wisdom', has concluded that these unsafe, antisocial, heavily-polluting cars - should be allowed to pump lethal emissions into the air for an extended period," said T&E Director Jos Dings. He added that the new legislation created an "unbelievable situation" where Euro 6 standards, to be enforced after 2014, will be weaker than those in California and ten other American states (40mg/km for both petrol and diesel cars):
"An American consumer can buy a super-clean diesel today at their local dealer, while a German will have to wait until 2015 to buy something even remotely similar. There is simply no excuse for allowing Europe to lose its leadership in this area."
 
So it would seem that Subaru U.S.A. has found a temporary Euro market for a new vehicle that pollutes like our older VW TDI acid rain makers..
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Bought a (new) '09 Jetta TDI by north52
Nov 15, 2009 (7:42 am)
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Hi folks, just picked up a 2009 Jetta TDI Highline DSG. Our model had all available options: ESP,Rear Airbag, Sirius and Bluetooth. This model is brand new with 53km (32mi) on the odometer.
 
I was originally going to wait for Honda to release their diesel - last year they announced that the Acura TSX (European Accord) would be available with Honda's 'clean diesel'. But a couple of months ago Honda announced that, mainly due to current market conditions, they would delay the release for the foreseeable future. Too bad - the current 2.2 turbo-diesel Honda sells in Europe is pretty much the equal of VW's TDI.
 
VW's TDI was always my first choice, but I wanted to see and drive this new Acura (Honda), but no such luck this year.
 
Over the next few weeks, we'll keep the forum posted of our family's first impressions!

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