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Re: Residual, Money Factor, Dealer Cash for 2009 Civic Sedan DX VP [vagabondchef] by th83
Sep 21, 2009 (9:43 pm)
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Replying to: vagabondchef (Sep 21, 2009 5:46 pm)

Well, I ran the numbers through a lease calculator and unless there are other fees being rolled into the lease besides the $595 AHFC acquisition fee and/or your money factor is higher than the super-preferred rate of .00186, it looks like the base cap cost (aka the selling price) of the car is about $17431. That's around invoice price, which isn't too bad. But don't forget there is $750 in marketing support on the Civic right now, and it seems like your dealer is keeping most, if not all of it. If you could get them to lower the selling price by that amount (once again, I'm assuming that I have the correct information in regards to the money factor and fees, and therefore selling price), your lease payment would fall to $250.04, which is more appropriate for a 36-month/15k Civic LX lease with $0 cap cost reduction, I think.
 
That said, supply and demand plays a huge role in the price you're going to get on the car. If your dealer only has a few Civics on the lot, then you're probably not going to have much bargaining room. Still, it's worth a shot to try and haggle with them to get the selling price of the car down as much as possible. Lease payments are based on the negotiated selling price of the car, so ask them what the current selling price is and then ask them if that includes the $750 in marketing support. Let them know that you're aware of the marketing support. They're less likely to take advantage of a buyer who's well-informed.
 
I hope this helps...
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Re: Residual, Money Factor, Dealer Cash for 2009 Civic Sedan DX VP [th83] by vagabondchef
Sep 22, 2009 (9:23 am)
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Replying to: th83 (Sep 21, 2009 9:43 pm)

Thanks for your reply, the dealer told me that that is the best that they can do and that the price of the car was $17500.00 and that includes throwing in all of the $1000.00 for marketing support. What do you think? Are there any other stageties I should try?
 
Thanks!!
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Re: Residual, Money Factor, Dealer Cash for 2009 Civic Sedan DX VP [vagabondchef] by th83
Sep 22, 2009 (6:02 pm)
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Replying to: vagabondchef (Sep 22, 2009 9:23 am)

Are there any other dealers in your area that have the car that you want in stock? If so, then you could pit them all against each other and see who will go the lowest. If not, there may not be much you can do as that one dealer pretty much has the advantage in that situation. In my area, there are only a handful of new 2009 Civics around, so if I were looking to buy a Civic LX (my local dealer only has two sedans left), I would be at the dealer's mercy and wouldn't be able to bargain at all.
 
I blame the CFC program for ruining the great deals that people were getting before the program started. Fuel efficient and relatively inexpensive cars like the Civic received the biggest boost in sales, and as a result, dealer inventory is low and the dealers are still smug after all of the money they raked in in July and August. Had the CFC program not come along, dealers would have a lot more unsold cars on their lots and you could probably still get a Civic LX for under $16k. I, too, need a new car (my lease is up in two weeks!) and I'm not sure what I'm gonna do now because I had planned on getting a 2009 Civic but now I'm going to be paying a lot more than I would've had I went ahead and bought in June or July. Oh well...
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Re: Residual, Money Factor, Dealer Cash for 2009 Civic Sedan DX VP [th83] by vagabondchef
Sep 22, 2009 (6:42 pm)
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Replying to: th83 (Sep 22, 2009 6:02 pm)

There are other dealers in the area but this one in Racine, Wisconsin has the most Civics LX sedans with over 50 of them in stock. I told the dealer today tht I would pay no more then $250.00 per month for 36 months with 15000 miles per year and $475.00 at delivery. They told me that they could make it work in some form or fashion. They asked me what time do I want to come in. You were right with the $250.00 per month that you figured out in your previous post.
 
Do you think I should do it? Is it a good deal? Let me know!!!
 
Thanks!!
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Re: Residual, Money Factor, Dealer Cash for 2009 Civic Sedan DX VP [vagabondchef] by th83
Sep 22, 2009 (10:59 pm)
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Replying to: vagabondchef (Sep 22, 2009 6:42 pm)

Hmm...that's not bad at all. The selling price on that deal would be roughly $1000 below invoice according to truecar.com, which is good.
 
One more question for you: Do any of those other dealerships have the color that you want? If they do, you can tell them that the dealership in Racine is willing to go $250/month with $475 out of pocket and see if they'd be willing to beat that. If they bite, tell the dealer in Racine what the other dealer offered and see if they'll beat that price. That's the best way to deal, in my experience.
 
Also, you might want to wait another week and buy on the last day of the month. They say that dealers get a bonus if they meet a certain sales quota, and they're usually willing to take a loss on a few cars to reach it. Who knows? You may be able to shave a few more dollars off your payment if you wait another week. If you can't wait that long, then the deal you have is good, and for all we know it may not get any better. And look at it this way, even if you settle on $250/month, that's still $23.50 less than what you'd be paying if you had accepted their first offer. That's not too shabby, eh?
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Is this 2009 Honda Civic Lease a Good Deal? by mightiesarah
Sep 23, 2009 (1:19 pm)
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Hi everyone, I've been reading along for a while and you have all helped me a great deal (whether you know it or not!).
 
Anyway, I was at a Honda dealership (near Boston) the other night and got a lease quote for a 2009 Honda Civic LX and was wondering what you think.
 
$136/month (including tax)
36 month lease
12,000 miles per year
$2,000 due at delivery (this includes a credit for my trade-in and all fees)
 
What do you think? I was wondering if I should negotiate the "due at delivery" for a little less (by asking for more for my trade-in, they kind of cut me short) and then asking for $0 at delivery and asking to differ it into the monthly payments.
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Re: Is this 2009 Honda Civic Lease a Good Deal? [mightiesarah] by vagabondchef
Sep 24, 2009 (9:06 am)
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Replying to: mightiesarah (Sep 23, 2009 1:19 pm)

I think you should use your trade-in as the down-payment and keep your money. Your payment will probably be $200.00 per month with tax. I'm trying to work a deal where I pay $248.78 a month for 36 months with 15000 miles and $470.00 at delivery and keep my money in investments not in a depreciating car. Work with the dealer as it is the end of the month.
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Re: Honda Civic: Lease Questions [Car_man] by msmaclav
Sep 26, 2009 (5:10 pm)
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Replying to: Car_man (Aug 31, 2005 3:05 am)

Car_man,
 
Can you tell me what the money factor and residuals are for both an '09 & '10 Honda Civic EX?
 
Also, I know the new deals came out on 9/8, do you know when the October deals are starting and if there is a place you post these when they come out or do I just need to check back?
 
Thanks in advance.
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Re: Honda Civic: Lease Questions [msmaclav] by msmaclav
Sep 27, 2009 (7:03 am)
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Replying to: msmaclav (Sep 26, 2009 5:10 pm)

Car_man,
  
Can you tell me what the money factor and residuals are for both an '09 & '10 Honda Civic EX?
  
Also, I know the new deals came out on 9/8, do you know when the October deals are starting and if there is a place you post these when they come out or do I just need to check back?
  
Thanks in advance.
 
Also forgot to say this would be for a 36 month, 12K mile lease.
 
Thanks again.
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Re: Honda Civic: Lease Questions [msmaclav] by Car_man HOST
Sep 30, 2009 (1:54 am)
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Replying to: msmaclav (Sep 26, 2009 5:10 pm)

Hello msmaclav. Honda Finance's current buy rate lease money factor and residual value for a 36 month lease of a 2010 Honda Civic EX Sedan without navigation with 15,000 miles per year are .00186 and 60%, respectively for consumers who qualify ffor its top aka "Super Preferred" credit tier.
 
The numbers for an otherwise identical lease of a 2009 Honda Civic EX Sedan are .00186 and 56%.
 
You never mentioned how long you want to lease for or what mileage allowance you need, so I had to make some assumptions. Let me know if you want something different.
 
Honda's current lease program is scheduled to run through November 2nd. While it is possible that it will make an unscheduled revision to the Civic's lease program in October I would say that it is unlikely.
 
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EDIT: Ahhhh, I see that in your next post you mentioned that you're interested in a lease with 12,000 miles per year. The residual values for 12k leases would be 2% higher than the ones that I mentioned above.

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