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Audi S4, Convertible, Sedan, Wagon
#135 of 144 Re: Pricing advice needed [klc3757]
Jun 10, 2013 (6:15 am)
Bought mine with the 6% off MSRP cert. I live in Cincinnati, but none of the local dealers (all 2 of them) would honor the certificate. I had to go to Chicago to find a dealer who would honor it.
At the time (about a year ago), Audi was offering $1,000 conquest or owner loyalty rebates, too. Don't know if that's still the case.
I pushed for a little more, but the best the dealer would do is throw in some "goodies" like rubber mats.
#136 of 144 Want to become Audi S4 owner
Jul 26, 2013 (8:31 pm)
Hi everyone, I am looking into purchasing 2013 or 2014 S4 (either slightly used under 10,000 miles or new). I currently drive BMW 535I (has 89,000 miles on it now), and always had BMW or Mercedes, so I am looking for new experience.
From what I've read, sport differential is important to get on the S4. If anyone recently has purchased an audi S4, I would like to hear about your deal and negotiating experience. I live in Los Angeles, so if you have a dealer you had a good experience with, please name names. I would welcome all advice on the audi S4 and its purchasing experience. Thanks so much.
#137 of 144 Re: Want to become Audi S4 owner [christinef]
Jul 28, 2013 (10:14 pm)
I would recommend Circle Audi in long beach. They were pretty easy to work with and gave me a solid discount on a 2013 s4.
#138 of 144 2014 Audi S4 Canada
Aug 02, 2013 (4:03 am)
2014 Audi S4 manual trans, highest trim level (technik in Canada), metallic paint, sport diff, carbon fiber inlays, mats, trunk liner, oil pan heater, other dealer accessories.
Obtained my own financing.
Price: $57655, with dealer options included $63333. Then add tax and more tax.
Total out the door price in Canadian Dollars $66500
#139 of 144 Looking for a good purchase deal on a 2013 S4
Aug 31, 2013 (6:12 am)
I'm considering a 2013 manual S4 with MSRP $48,640 (including destination fee). The dealer is offering 6% off MSRP, and has added $240 for some city DAG fee, $195 for preparation & inspection, $75 doc fee, & $535 tax fees (separate from vehicle tax).
Firstly, is 6% off MSRP for a 2013 at this time of the year a good deal? Also, can all these fees be negotiated? I am under the impression that the $895 destination charge is fixed.
Thanks for your advice in advance.
#140 of 144 Re: Looking for a good purchase deal on a 2013 S4 [rs2014]
Sep 03, 2013 (5:32 am)
I like my S4 (2013).
6% is the supplier pricing, which is what I paid. It's a good deal.
The other fees?
$195 for inspecting and preparation? I'd like to know what they're inspecting and preparing. Final inspection is done at the factory before it's delivered. Dealer gets paid by Audi to do any final preparations. So, sounds like they're double dipping there.
Destination is fixed (and covers the above).
I don't know what DAG stands for. So, can't comment on that fee.
$535 tax fee (different from tax)? WOW....unless I'm missing something, I've never heard of a fee to charge you tax.
So, 6% off MSRP. Good price there.
But, add in what I consider questionable fees $535 + $240 + $195 = $970.
I'd tell the dealer to subtract all of that or I'd walk. If they won't, then I'd go to another dealer.
#141 of 144 Lease numbers on 2014 S4 Prem Plus
Sep 12, 2013 (3:00 pm)
Hi all, looking at leasing a 2014 S4 Premium Plus and was hoping for some feedback on the numbers the dealer is giving me:
Invoice: $55,377.25 (I verified this figure against the known invoice prices and it matches, but also includes not only the $895 destination fee which I know is unavoidable, but a $195 prep/inspection fee and a $290 "FL Gulf Coast DAG" fee - not sure what those are or if they are standard)
Dealer profit: $500
Shipping (they had to get the car from another dealer across the state): $450
"PDI and detail" fee: $450
Sale price: $56,777
Acquisition fee $695
Conquest bonus cash $1,000
So with the acquisition fee and Audicare rolled in, I get:
Total adjusted cap cost: $57,352.25 (my calculation) $57,742.59 (dealer calculation?)
42mo lease / 12k mi / 54% residual (with Audicare) / .00108 MF
Base payment: $713.68
Tax 7%: $49.96
Total monthly payment: $763.64
Due at signing:
First month’s payment of $763.64
State license fees $250
Rental surcharge $60
Tire & Battery fees $6.50
Dealer Service Charge $697.50
Cash Cap Red. Tax $76.47
Tax on Florida fees $53.48
Cash to cap reduction $92.41
Total due at signing: $2,000.00
What do you guys think of these numbers? The negotiated sale price of invoice plus $500 seems reasonable to me from what I’ve seen, although I don’t know what those extra things on the invoice price are. The shipping I don’t know if I can avoid since they went out of their way to get this particular car for me. The two things that really jump out at me are the $450 “PDI and detail” fee and the $697.50 “Dealer Service Charge”. Also, I can’t figure out how the dealer is getting their cap cost with the numbers above.
Here are three screen captures from my sales guy’s computer that he sent me:
Any and all feedback will be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
#142 of 144 Re: Lease numbers on 2014 S4 Prem Plus [jlaw305]
by kyfdx@Edmunds HOST
Sep 12, 2013 (3:15 pm)
$500 over invoice is good..
(DAG is dealer advertising group... Advertising fee charged to dealer on each car)
.00108 is the base MF... residual is correct..
Dealer sending you screenshots... at least it's all there to see...
FEES!!! $195 prep/inspection fee on the invoice, and then they have the nerve to charge another $450 for PDI?? $450 to transport the car seems high, but okay.... but, another $697 for dealer fee?
I'm not intimately familiar with the market for a 2014 S4... It's possible they would never sell for $500 over invoice, if they weren't getting you for $1200-$1500 in extra fees, you know?
#143 of 144 Is this a good deal?
Sep 17, 2013 (7:27 pm)
2014 Audi S4 Premium plus - 60,165
ESTORIL BLUE CRYSTAL EFFECT
Audi Side Assist
Audi quattro w/Rear Sports Differential
Bang & Olufsen Sound System
Carbon Atlas Decorative Inlays
Fine Nappa Leather Seat Trim
Front License Plate Holder
The dealer said I can have this vehicle for $55,000
The lease is:
$5000 $645/36 for 12K BO 34900
$5000 $683/36 for 15k BO 33700
I am wondering if I should lease or just buy the car outright. Do you guys think this is a good deal?
#144 of 144 Re: Lease numbers on 2014 S4 Prem Plus [jlaw305]
Sep 18, 2013 (5:38 am)
I'm with kyfdx...$500 over inv is good. Showing the screen capture, as he says, at least it's all there to see.
But, also as he says, what's with the fees? Dealer inspection and prep fees? Audi pays the dealer to inspect and prep the car when it hits the lot. So, the dealer is double charging?
I personally wouldn't touch the deal. But, if it's the best you can find, and you really like the car (they are wonderful cars).......??????!!!!!!
I'd tell the dealer...drop the PDI/Detail (they're actually charging you to deliver a clean car to you?) and the alleged "Dealer Service Fee" (what the heck is that? It's a brand new car. It comes with oil, Anti-freeze, brake fluid, etc. What's there to service?).