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Toyota Prius, Hybrid Cars, Sedan
#262 of 2152 Re: Prius -- Floor mats "Required"??? [jenster1]
Sep 27, 2006 (5:35 pm)
Well, unfortunately that is the case. The carpets are added at the port of entry as a CF option, only there is nothing optional about the option and you can't delete it. You can only refuse to pay for it. I have a Prius and I like the vehicle but Toyota's marketing ploys are nauseating compared to the very straightforward marketing by Honda. So, it is an unoptional option and it is not a part of MSRP. They cost $186 in 2006 and apparently they have been bumped to $199 for 2007. The other options that you could not unoption in 2006 was the rear bumper applique and the locking wheel nuts. What is annoying about the carpets is that they are of mediocre quality. Consequently, I made the dealer supply free Toyota black rubber mats that are designed for the Prius and are of excellent quality. They run about $100 at the dealer parts desk if you order them subsequent to the purchase.
So, the bottom line is that it's a scam, but as scams go these days, it's a relatively benign one. Grin and bear it.
#263 of 2152 Re: Prius -- Floor mats "Required"??? [cruising7388]
Sep 27, 2006 (5:44 pm)
Ahhh, thanks for the insight, cruising. So this is a Toyota scam, not one being perpetrated by my local auto broker? Strangely enough, that makes me feel better. I'll make a bid for some extras then, to make up for the insane mats. I appreciate all the help in getting the true info!
#264 of 2152 Re: Prius -- Floor mats "Required"??? [jenster1]
Sep 27, 2006 (5:52 pm)
In my research I have found that the matts, window tint, toyoguard, interior lighting, etc. are NOT included in BASE MSRP, but are added to MSRP just like the broker said.
If I search inventory on Toyota, I can find them with certain accessories from the factories, others without. The basic matt ($199) seems to be on a large percentage, some including the trunk matt (MSRP $249).
Check out the Toyota page and you'll see that the 100 or so vehicles that come up in your region on a certain package level vary several hundred in MSRP.
Am I missing something???
#265 of 2152 Re: Prius -- Floor mats "Required"???
Sep 27, 2006 (6:54 pm)
Now I'm confused too, Jonathan! When I "build a Toyota" on the Toyota Web site, the base MSRP is consistently $22,175. How do I check inventory on vehicles coming into my region?
I've been told by one dealer that Toyota just sends them all cars, of various types and packages and colors. It's up to the dealer to find buyers. In other words, it's not like the dealers can specifically tell the company what orders they have. Maybe Toyota randomly puts accessories in vehicles and tells the dealers, "Take it as it is. That's what you're getting." And then the dealerships have to, well, deal with it.
#266 of 2152 Nauseating marketing by Toyota
Sep 27, 2006 (7:50 pm)
I second Cruising's opinion on Toyota marketing, especially in CA. In SoCal everything has floor mat (some with added Cargo net), but in NoCal just about every Prius has floormats and bumper applique built into the price. I also tried to price a 2007 (on Toyota website), and noticed SoCal buyers must buy higher pkgs than NoCal buyers.
For the hack of it, I plugged in different zip codes, and found that Toyota drew a line somewhere between Bakersfield and Visalia. If you are north of it, you get screwed with more mandatory options, but cheaper package cars. If you are south of it, you get stuck with less mandatory options, but more useless BLING's.
I had thought Toyota dealers are the only slime. Now I think Toyota marketing is slime too.
#267 of 2152 Just got my '07 in Chicago
Sep 27, 2006 (9:28 pm)
Hey, folks. First, thanks to all the posters. I am a newbie and learned a lot reading this stuff over the last couple months. I just today picked up my '07 Barcelona Red Pkg 2 from Grossinger City Toyota in Chicago. Paid MSRP minus $200 Costco discount. They gave me very fair value for my trade. Didn't try to stick me with extras. They knew I wanted it by Sept. 30 and they busted their humps to get it for me. Red was my third choice but now that I have it in my garage, I really like it. I'm looking forward to applying all of the mileage "tricks" folks in the forums have talked about.
Anyway, just letting everyone know it is possible to get an '07 by the "deadline."
#268 of 2152 Re: Prius -- Floor mats "Required"??? [jenster1]
Sep 28, 2006 (3:12 am)
Let me reproduce what I am seeing...
Go to http://www.toyota.com/prius/index.h..._TN_PRIUS_INDEX
Click Build & Price and use 33781 as ZIP
Click Top Right 2007 Prius (Bottom is touring)
At this moment I see 26 cars in the SE USA.
Notice the spread on MSRP...click into each and see that the reason is the features...
Some have matts, some don't. If they do, they are an addition over base MSRP.
See what I mean? Seems Toyota predetermines what accessories it will have from the factory...(or at least some of them)
#269 of 2152 Re: Just got my '07 in Chicago [mikenadel]
Sep 28, 2006 (5:03 am)
Congratulations on your '07! Is it a Touring? It sounds you got a fair price for it; good to know about the Costco discount. Thanks for sharing that. Can you recommend the person who you have closed the deal with? We are also in Chicago and are looking for a Red Prius with navi.
#270 of 2152 Re: Prius -- Floor mats "Required"??? [jonathansulliv]
Sep 28, 2006 (6:08 am)
South East Toyota is the distributor for the south east (obviously, right?). They are allowed to offered different option packages, and even different brands of wheel upgrades than non-SET zones. I believe the pricing is even different in some cases.
#271 of 2152 Re: Just got my '07 in Chicago [virgilg]
Sep 28, 2006 (7:53 am)
This is an excellent example of why you have to be cautious with the Edmunds TMV figures on what people are paying for their vehicles. Their TMV for the Prius shows anywhere from $1500 to $2000 over MSRP. But you sure don't see anyone involved with these forums paying that inflated price.