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Toyota Prius, Hybrid Cars, Sedan
#182 of 2152 Re: Pruis Buying Experience in St. Louis [ck90211]
Aug 27, 2006 (12:31 pm)
That certainly consistent with the Donlen tabulation for the Prius which shows that the final order for the 2006 was supposed to be entered by 5/10/06. Orders for the 2007 are accepted on 6/12/06. Intial 2007 production starts in 08/06 and initial delivery is scheduled for 10/06. So interestingly, while consumers are snapping up 2006 models as fast as they trickle in through the distribution chain, the factory is already building 2007 models for distribution in October. Because the Prius is so unique, it has no direct competition, so their release schedule is relatively unaffected by the competition. Knowing that there is a real world customer out there to purchase every Prius you can build, must make for a comfortable nights sleep for the movers and shakers in the Toyota Prius building and marketing teams. It's such a disappointment that our domestic giants, Ford Chevvy and Chrysler have not had the same success. Why are we such slow learners?
#183 of 2152 Re: Pruis Buying Experience in St. Louis [cruising7388]
Aug 27, 2006 (4:28 pm)
Since all Prius (for worldwide) come out of 1 factory (I think), the annual production runs probably ends even sooner than June. The factory I was more familiar with produces Corolla (only) and that runs longer (till June). In regards to easy life Prius team has, no team at Toyota has easy life (even no Toyota suppliers have easy life). But I admire Toyota for taking a leap of faith (and sunk lots of money) on hybrids back in the mid 90's, for the exact reason you (cruising7388) said, to get into something that has no direct competition. Japan's $6-8 a gallon probably helped solidify their resolve (to develop hybrids) too. Taking a leap of faith is tough to do for any Japanese because of risk aversion, but for Big3 there is simply no excuse (because Big3 constantly talk about "INNOVATIONS"). What sickens me more about Big3 is their responses to hybrids so far. First they bad mouth it. Now they talk about how flex fuel, E85 will make SUV's and trucks better than hybrids. Pretty soon, they will demand the feds to buy out their pensions. But they still won't have a viable technology/product. I guess Big3 knows that no US politicians want to be responsible for US auto demise, so they can "white"mail themselves out of this jam. Sorry to stretch this Prius discussion beyond its scope.
#184 of 2152 Any recommendations on DC area dealers
Aug 28, 2006 (7:38 pm)
I am tired of waiting for SoCal dealers to deliver a Prius before end of Sept. at MSRP. Also kind of apprehensive about missing the Sept. tax credit deadline. I think all 2006 Prius have been allocated, and not much more will come to SoCal this coming month. I am planning to shop around DC area, any suggestions on dealers and likely discounts (at end of the month)? Is VA/MD a CARB state? Who else is a CARB state? Thanks.
#185 of 2152 Re: Any recommendations on DC area dealers [ck90211]
Aug 28, 2006 (8:46 pm)
Sorry, I don't have any info regarding DC area dealers
Have you tried other dealers in California, preferably in the outlying areas rather than urban areas? No, Maryland is not a CARB state but it is a good state to buy a Prius this late in the year. Fitzgerald Auto Mall in Gaithersburg is a high volume Toyota dealer and they get a large Prius allocation. Check out what is coming in on their website: www.fitzmall.com. BTW, the vehicle will require a California registration to qualify for the HOV sticker. That might, however, be academic because apparently the program is going to be put on hold before too much longer.
CARB states are as follows:
#186 of 2152 CARB warranty?
Aug 28, 2006 (9:38 pm)
Cruising, thanks for your prompt response. I am checking Longo Toyota (supposedly biggest Toyota dealer in the world), and they may have one in soon enough. Plus they seems to have firm allocation, not wishful alloation. I may also check other dealers more inland of LA, perhaps more chances, since western LA (where I live) is too rich and too image conscience (meaning lots of people on waiting list and paying MSRP+). I would bet Hollywood (and immediate vacinity) has a large Prius population. Perhaps I try NJ too, since I can bum free living from family. By the way, what is the extra CARB-related warranty? Is it a 15 year coverage on emission/batteries? Thanks again.
#188 of 2152 Re: CARB warranty? [ck90211]
Aug 29, 2006 (5:24 pm)
A dealer you might try is Thompsons Toyota in Placerville.
Give them a call and get the contact for their internet sales and try that. They are more out in the sticks where it's truck and SUV country where the demand for hybrids is not as strong as it is on the coast and in urban areas.
Re the warranties:
The basic bumper to bumper warranty is 3yr/36000 except for wheel alignment and balancing which is covered for 1yr/20000.
The powertrain is covered for 60 months or 60,000 miles whichever comes first.This includes the engine, transaxle and front-wheel drive system. Corrosion warranty is for 60 months, unlimited mileage.
Where Federal and CARB protection departs is with the emission control systems and the batteries.
The Federal emission defect is for 2 years/24,000 but the terms of the Toyota Basic Warranty bumps this up to 3 years/36000. The Engine control module , Catalytic Converter, the battery control module, the malfunction indicator light. battery and the hybrid control module is covered for 8 yrs/80000
The CARB state program provides a 15 year 150,000 miles warranty for any emission defect which includes:
Engine control computer module
Intake manifold and intake air surge tank
Exhaust front pipe
Battery Control computer
Hybrid control computer
Inverter with converter
Coolant heat storage tank.
The only item not covered in this warranty is the Hybrid battery which has a 10 yr/150,000 mile warranty.
If there is anything above that needs clarification, you can talk to the California Air Resources Board at 800 242
IMO, the CARB warranty is a definite plus. It makes substantial portions of the Toyota extended warranty (4-7 years) redundant.
#189 of 2152 Great CARB warranty
Aug 29, 2006 (9:22 pm)
Cruising, thanks so much for a very detailed explaination on what's covered regularly and in CARB states. It sure make a lot of sense to buy in CARB states, since everything on your list would cost thousands, and warranty is almost twice as long. I will check Placerville for sure. Thanks.
#190 of 2152 Re: Toyota Prius: Prices Paid & Buying Experiences [KarenS]
Aug 30, 2006 (3:25 pm)
I'm in North Central Indiana and am buying from a local Toyota dealer. The salesman is related to my best friend and I leased a Camry from him in the past. That helped me get a good deal on my trade-in, but I still don't have my Prius!
To give him some credit, I want a certain color and a certain package and he is having to find me one. I could have had a silver Prius pretty much that week. For that kind of money, I'm getting what I want.
So far, I'm fairly pleased with the price. Although, spending this much on a car is a new thing for me. I dont' have the paperwork on me, but I believe these numbers are pretty darn close. With tax it comes out to about $25,500, with package 4. The mats are included in that price. I believe the price on extending the bumper to bumper warranty was $885.00. Sounds like I got a fairly good deal on that.
Just wanted to throw my 2 cents in. I'll post again once I actually get the car. I've done my research and I'm feeling pretty good about purchasing it. All the forums were a great help. Thanks to all who post!
#191 of 2152 Re: Toyota Prius: Prices Paid & Buying Experiences [librarychick94]
Aug 30, 2006 (5:59 pm)
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Re the extended warranty, there are some things you should keep in mind: There is no hurry to purchase an extended warranty - if you want one, you can purchase it any time during the basic three year warranty. Additionally, if you have purchased an extended warranty, you have 30 days in which to request a full refund.
How well you have done on the extended warranty depends upon what warranty coverage is involved. The warranties available are:
Any of the above can purchased with either a $50 deductible or a $0 deductible.
Which warranty are you purchasing?