- #1660 of 1971
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Re: Paying over MSRP? [bob104]
by hawaiicarguy
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Jul 16, 2008 (2:40 pm)
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Replying to: bob104 (Jul 11, 2008 11:39 am)
Thanks for the responses. I test drove the Fit and although I was impressed by the interior (seats go flat, sturdy interior, youthful looking display, etc.), the drive was bumpy and acceleration not so quick. I would pay more to get the Prius, especially if gas continues to rise, I feel it will be worth it. I am so disappointed by the fact that the NAV system in Toyota cars (including the Prius) don't work in Hawaii because the car I will get comes with it (package 6 touring). But, I still want it because I may move my car back to the mainland someday.
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- #1661 of 1971
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Re: Paying over MSRP? [carnaught]
by consumer8
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Jul 25, 2008 (11:32 am)
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Replying to: carnaught (Jul 10, 2008 8:33 am)
I too had my share of what I call 'Gouging' and the dealership called Market Adjustment of 5000.00 over MSRP. The salesperson had the nerve to compare this to the Katrina disaster when bottles of water were being sold at 5 to 6 dollars a pop! He bragged that the public was buying them and I told him that this is the time when the government should step in and do something about this crap! He lowered the price by 500.00 and we walked out. I refuse to be one of the folks that are being taken advantage of. I think we do need to be patient and wait for the influx of new hybrids that will saturate the market probably within months if not a year. Just needed to get this off my chest, I am still fuming about this.
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- #1662 of 1971
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Re: Toyota Clear Lake (SE Houston) wants $7500 "premium" [indianajohns]
by cruising7388
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Jul 25, 2008 (12:55 pm)
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Replying to: indianajohns (Jun 25, 2008 10:10 pm)
"Some guy in this forum said "Well what if gas is $20 per gallon. It could happen." THAT'S IMPOSSIBLE. If gas were $20 per gallon our economy would be destroyed so fast it wouldn't matter what kind of car you drove. The trucking industry would crumble, meaning every consumer product that is trucked would cost 5 or more times as much. There would be zero gas powered mass transit, no buses or planes or taxis. It would be the Great Depression Part II. With $20 per gallon gas you could probably trade your $26,000 Prius for a newspaper or some already chewed bubble gum if you were lucky. "
Impossible? Four years ago, the prospect of fuel going to $5 per gallon was described as "Inconceivable". The draconian consequence of $20 gas has no connection with the liklihood of it occuring. If we started pedal to the metal today, it will still take between 10-15 years to fully engage an alternative energy source for vehicles. While $20 gas is not a slam dunk, the failure to acknowledge this distinct possibility is a full fledged flight from reality.
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- #1663 of 1971
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Re: Paying over MSRP? [consumer8]
by cruising7388
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Jul 25, 2008 (12:57 pm)
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Replying to: consumer8 (Jul 25, 2008 11:32 am)
There should be a Hall of Shame thread on this forum for dealers that behave this way. Some day, the worm will turn and these identified hucksters could then be avoided like the plague.
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- #1664 of 1971
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Re: Paying over MSRP? [consumer8]
by carnaught
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Jul 25, 2008 (1:01 pm)
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Replying to: consumer8 (Jul 25, 2008 11:32 am)
I too had my share of what I call 'Gouging' and the dealership called Market Adjustment of 5000.00 over MSRP. The salesperson had the nerve to compare this to the Katrina disaster when bottles of water were being sold at 5 to 6 dollars a pop! He bragged ..........
Both situations are just as sleazy.
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- #1665 of 1971
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my .02 worth
by sbell4
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Jul 25, 2008 (1:27 pm)
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first of all, I am a Toyota dealer and we do not charge over MSRP
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a dealer can charge what they want for their product and the consumer has the right to pay or not pay. The reason some dealers charge a "premium" for a Prius is because there are buyers that will pay for the immediate gratification. If you disagree with a business's practice the best thing to do is avoid them but there isnt any reason to call them scum, thieves etc. because they do not do what you would like them to do.
I always wonder what the people that complain would do if they had a Prius and they sold it on ebay. Would they stop the bidding when it reached Edmunds TMV or would they take whatever price someone offered even if they knew it was more then the car was worth.
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- #1666 of 1971
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Re: my .02 worth [sbell4]
by carnaught
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Jul 25, 2008 (1:58 pm)
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Replying to: sbell4 (Jul 25, 2008 1:27 pm)
.......a dealer can charge what they want for their product and the consumer has the right to pay or not pay. The reason some dealers charge a "premium" for a Prius is because there are buyers that will pay for the immediate gratification. If you disagree with a business's practice the best thing to do is avoid them but there isnt any reason to call them scum, thieves etc. because they do not do what you would like them to do.
Well of course these dealers can do what they WANT to; it's a free country. Just like I and others are free to say these dealers ARE scum and I, for one, will never do business with them.
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- #1667 of 1971
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Re: Paying over MSRP? [consumer8]
by 3c3
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Jul 25, 2008 (3:14 pm)
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Replying to: consumer8 (Jul 25, 2008 11:32 am)
I bought my Prius for $2000 under MSRP. I would not have bought one for MSRP, let alone anything over MSRP.
However, there is absolutely nothing wrong with the dealers asking for $5K/$10K/etc. over MSRP. Nobody is forcing you to buy a Prius. There are plenty of other cars available. When the dealers cannot sell the cars for what they're asking, prices will come down. Simple supply and demand.
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- #1668 of 1971
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Re: Paying over MSRP? [3c3]
by hawaiicarguy
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Jul 25, 2008 (5:38 pm)
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Replying to: 3c3 (Jul 25, 2008 3:14 pm)
I agree with the supply and demand theory with the Prius. When I looked at what people were trying to sell their USED Prius for (online on ebay and craigslist), it was not too much less than what the dealership was asking for on a NEW Prius, which included a $2K dealer mark-up from the MSRP. When I asked the dealer why he marked up $2K, he said "Well, that is nothing...guys in CA are marking it up $5K over MSRP". I think a better answer would have been "Because I can".
At the end of the day, I was happy to pay the $2K to get my car now versus in 5-6 months.
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- #1669 of 1971
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2009 Prius
by 3c3
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Jul 25, 2008 (10:28 pm)
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MSRP to be increased by about $500.
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