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Touring vs Base by bob104
Jun 24, 2008 (3:17 pm)
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From Consumer Reports. BTW, I paid only $500 more for my Touring#6 than for a Base#6. What makes the Touring get worse mileage is its sticky 195mm tires over the Base's 185mm tires. Somehow, though I wouldn't get the Touring again, I did get my moneysworth and then some when I safely braked HARD in heavy 70mph traffic near Las Vegas. In that case, the 10foot margin of safety saved me a bad collision.
 
Toyota Prius Touring: First Drive
 
  
The high-end Touring version of Toyota's Prius has wider wheels and tires and a tighter suspension than the car's base version. Online subscribers have often asked whether to opt for the Touring Prius, so we put it to the test. Our Touring car cost $24,803, which is $895 more than a base model.
Along with an option package including electronic stability control, this Touring Prius did have better handling and braking than a previously tested base model. It got through our avoidance maneuver 3 mph faster, which puts it on a par with some of the better-performing family sedans. It also stopped about 10 feet shorter from 60 mph. The main performance drawback is lower mpg: 42 vs. 44.
 
CR's take. Mileage for the Touring Prius is still much better than that for any other five-passenger car we've tested, and the edge in performance could give drivers an extra margin of safety. We think that's worth the extra money.
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Re: Toyota Clear Lake (SE Houston) wants $7500 "premium" [jweaver39] by indianajohns
Jun 25, 2008 (11:10 pm)
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Replying to: jweaver39 (Jun 24, 2008 1:30 pm)

I soooo love this debate. And I think you are exactly right. Here's why...
 
Compare Prius vs. Yaris. At $4 per gallon and 12,000 miles per year, you are saving $550 in gas money TOTAL. Assuming you are going to only keep the car for 5 years, a 60 month bank loan for a $26,000 Prius would be $502.65 a month.
And a $14,000 Yaris would be $270.66 per month. So in 3 months you have already spent more on car payments than you actually saved on gas money. Now multiply that by the whole 60 months = $13,919.40 difference in car payments made. Subtract the yearly $550 gas savings = $11,169.40. You have paid over 11 GRAND to "SAVE GAS MONEY." I don't get it.
  
Some guy in this forum said "Well what if gas is $20 per gallon. It could happen." THAT'S IMPOSSIBLE. If gas were $20 per gallon our economy would be destroyed so fast it wouldn't matter what kind of car you drove. The trucking industry would crumble, meaning every consumer product that is trucked would cost 5 or more times as much. There would be zero gas powered mass transit, no buses or planes or taxis. It would be the Great Depression Part II. With $20 per gallon gas you could probably trade your $26,000 Prius for a newspaper or some already chewed bubble gum if you were lucky.
 
All we can hope for in the near future is to build more nuclear power plants to give us electricity that doesn't rely on fossil fuels to power electric vehicles and even before that, pray that the oil companies start drilling oil on the U.S. public lands they already have a green light to drill on and pray they get green lights to drill in areas they don't already have permission because a squirrel might be inconvenienced.
 
Any way to lessen our dependence on foreign oil, I'm for it 100% but I'm not going to spend an extra $186 a month to do so. I'm going to stick to a $14,000 car or wait for the little "minis" to come out later this year or next year.
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Re: Toyota Clear Lake (SE Houston) wants $7500 "premium" [indianajohns] by jaxs1
Jun 26, 2008 (6:19 am)
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Replying to: indianajohns (Jun 25, 2008 11:10 pm)

Gas will probably not stay flat at $4 per gallon for the next 5 years. Did gas prices stay flat the previous 5 years? 5 years ago people where assuming gas wouldn't go over $2 a per gallon in 5 years.
 
The Yaris will still be cheaper, but it isn't a comparable car. The Prius is a more substantial car with more space and many more features than just the hybrid battery.
If they make something a Yaris hybrid in a few years, then that will be something to compare it to.
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Re: Toyota Clear Lake (SE Houston) wants $7500 "premium" [jaxs1] by kirstie_h HOST
Jun 26, 2008 (6:45 am)
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Replying to: jaxs1 (Jun 26, 2008 6:19 am)

OK, we're starting to veer a bit far afield for the "prices paid" discussion. There are a load of other Prius-related and fuel-related discussions that make more sense for this line of conversation. Thanks!
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Re: New 208 [oldcoach] by smokemirrors
Jul 06, 2008 (1:10 pm)
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Replying to: oldcoach (May 27, 2008 1:26 pm)

Hello Old coach,
 
Can you share where you bought your Prius? I am in the market. Thanks so much!
 
smokemirrors
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Re: New 208 [smokemirrors] by oldcoach
Jul 07, 2008 (4:19 am)
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Replying to: smokemirrors (Jul 06, 2008 1:10 pm)

I would be glad to share my purchase information with you. I got my 208 Prius on May 29,2008, from FERRIS TOYOTA in NEW PHILADELHIA , OHIO. I was treated real good and feel I got a fair deal. Need any more information let me know. OLDCOACH
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Paying over MSRP? by hawaiicarguy
Jul 09, 2008 (9:04 pm)
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I have a deal in the works for purchasing a 2008 Prius for $2K over MSPR. This is for a Touring #6 so the MSRP is approximately $28K (out the door of $30K). I've been looking for a long time and don't have a car now because I sold it. There is a long waiting list all over the place, so I would pay a premium to get one now. What do you guys think?
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Re: Paying over MSRP? [hawaiicarguy] by carnaught
Jul 10, 2008 (9:33 am)
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Replying to: hawaiicarguy (Jul 09, 2008 9:04 pm)

I have a deal in the works for purchasing a 2008 Prius for $2K over MSPR. This is for a Touring #6 so the MSRP is approximately $28K (out the door of $30K). I've been looking for a long time and don't have a car now because I sold it. There is a long waiting list all over the place, so I would pay a premium to get one now. What do you guys think?
 
I wouldn't pay over MSRP no matter how popular the car is now. There ARE also dealers who will still sell for MSRP or less in this market; so what if you have to wait. You may not have much of a choice if you are in Hawaii.
 
The dealers who gouge buyers based on "market adjustments" are entitled do so in a a free market economy but they permanently go on my personal sh*t list, and I will never buy from them.
 
Any savings in gasoline or personal satisfaction you might derive with the car are more than offset by the price premium, IMHO.
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Re: Paying over MSRP? [carnaught] by bob104
Jul 11, 2008 (12:39 pm)
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Replying to: carnaught (Jul 10, 2008 9:33 am)

The buildyourown configurator at toyota.com prices out an 08Touring#6 at $28,605, msrp including destination, no mats. So if they're offering you that car at $28,000 you're getting it at $600 below msrp.
 
 In CA, with sales tax of 7.75%, title, etc. it costs about $31,000 or so OTD.
 
As to the idea of paying a premium, I don't like it but it MAY be worth it as currently the next best cars to my thinking, Yaris and Fit, burn about 90 gallons more gasoline per 12,000 miles. Hard to project the resale market three-five years from now as to gasoline prices and the much wider choices in fuel-efficient cars. Yaris and Fit may seem like SUVs by then. I would think that the 42-44mpg Prius would tend to hold its value better than the 32-34mpg Yaris or Fit. My 30 mpg 02Civic only lost about $1,000 per year.
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by mazaniac
Jul 11, 2008 (5:24 pm)
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Many Toyota dealers have flat out lost their frickin minds. I saw one in Daytona Beach showing $6,500 ABOVE MSRP on their web site!! If I'm not willing to pay sticker for a car, I'm certainly not going to pay above it no matter how "popular" or "rare" the dealer says the car is. How is a brand new mass-produced car "rare?" Same thing happened here at various dealers across North Fla. that folks have mentioned, . . . no wiggle room, waiting lists, sticker price, and extras crammed down your throat. Was haggling with one sales manager at one dealership when a salesman walked up and asked "is this deal going through or should I call the next people on the list?" Blatant sales technique, but the rudeness of it pissed me off to no end. Lowered my offer from the previous one, laughed, and walked. Would have LOVED to have a Prius, but driving the darn thing for five years to make up the difference in over-cost vs. fuel savings would have driven me nuts. I'll wait. Besides, they are pissing a lot of people off and as soon as some viable alternative start hitting the market they are going to be in for a rude awakening when they're market share takes a big hit.

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