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Honda Accord, Acura TSX, Sedan
May 16, 2008 (5:42 pm)
The Accord coupe looks bloated next to the TSX actually. The '04 I saw at the Honda store last week was a black/black car and was realllllly nice, leather felt real soft though neglected a bit. If the wife wouldn't have killed me it would be in my side of the garage right now. But the frugal side of me brought me back to reality real fast as I'm real happy with my '06 Civic. But just for awhile that TSX would've been fun.
Better to save the $ for the kids cars later this year. Have set aside about $30k for that big purchase, as they will both need econocars as their 1st cars especially with the gas prices rising almost daily.
#625 of 661 Re: '04 vs '04 [thegraduate]
May 16, 2008 (6:01 pm)
I would rank the Accord between the two Acuras. TSX below, and the TL above the Accord. I would consider the TSX above the Civic though. Isn't that how they are priced? Acura doesn't have the RSX for sale here (US) anymore, does it?
#626 of 661 TSX Gas Use
May 16, 2008 (6:12 pm)
My neighbor has the TSX he started with the prem. switched over to reg. when the prices went up, he puts regular in it now and he said there is not much of a difference in performance or mileage. The knock sensors will take care of the rest.
#627 of 661 Re: '04 vs '04 [thegraduate]
May 18, 2008 (12:36 pm)
TSX has 200hp engine with better aerodynamics drag of 0.26. how is 4 cylinder accord with 160hp can match it. Accord lacks the quality of 3 stage paint of TSX. A nice 04 in CPO TSX is far better than 04 Accord.
#628 of 661 Re: '04 vs '04 [loi177]
May 18, 2008 (1:34 pm)
how is 4 cylinder accord with 160hp can match it.
Incidentally, if we use C&D as a measuring stick (using numbers from one source helps minimize launch differences), the 2004 TSX with a stick-shift accelerated from 0-60 in 7.2-7.5 seconds, depending on which test you prefer to go by. Car and Driver measured a 2007 2.4L Accord with a stick shift doing the 0-60 in 7.2 seconds. I use the 2006-2007 Accords for my measuring stick because that's what I drive, and that's what I have compared firsthand. Thus, I stand behind my initial statement.
What the TSX does not have is more usable torque than the 4-cyl Accord. Around town, they feel similar. With an automatic, especially. When driving as normal folks do, I could tell little difference between a 2004 TSX Auto and my 2006 Accord Auto (166hp). Horsepower and torque peaks come higher-in the RPM range, meaning while you have to rev the sweet 2.4 to get the power, it isn't as readily available back below the stratusphere where most people drive (below 6,000 RPM). Here's a quote from Car and Driver's Road Test of the 2004 Acura TSX.
the TSX mill doesn't deliver much grunt below 3000 rpm, but as the tachometer creeps toward peak torque, the engine pulls strongly to 6000 rpm, at which point the cam profiles go long for the 1100-rpm sprint to the redline.
The TSX is heavier for a smaller car as well, actually weighing a little more than the last 4-cylinder Automatic Accord (Gen VII, which we have been talking about here) tested in Car and Driver.
Accord lacks the quality of 3 stage paint of TSX.
Nobody mentioned paint, but ok.
#629 of 661 Re: '04 vs '04 [thegraduate]
May 19, 2008 (5:38 pm)
so how is navigation system in 04 Accord. does it have HID lights, climate control, traction control, power seat, NVH levels, etc. how is performance 0-100 mile? lateral accelaration.60mph is too short to judge perofrmance. TSX shape will endure for long time. i can drive at 90mph at 3000rpm with 5AT and still get 28mpg on 06 TSX. TSX is heavier car but once it gets upto speed. it is very refined crusier.
#630 of 661 Re: '04 vs '04 [loi177]
May 19, 2008 (6:11 pm)
The V6 Accord has more of everything I want, than the TSX (for about the same price). I have no affection for HID lights, have climate control, traction control, two power seats, more interior room, and will get from 50-90mph faster than the TSX. I will admit the TSX looks a little better than the Accord, but then the TL makes them both look bad. I didn't buy my car to make a fashion statement.
#631 of 661 Re: '04 vs '04 [loi177]
May 19, 2008 (7:09 pm)
so how is navigation system in 04 Accord. does it have HID lights
Navi system? Its optional, just like the TSX. It's quite nice, and voice activated. The dual-climate control is nice in models so-equipped, as is the smoother ride. Nope, doesn't have HIDs, but the 4-cyl model doesn't cost $29k new, either, as does a TSX.
I don't drive sustained at 90 MPH all day long (something about wanting to keep my drivers license... ), so 0-60 is plenty of measure for me for knowing how a car is going to do from the red light at the bottom of the on-ramp up to the merging lane. If 0-100 is important to you, you should really look at a V6; it'll blow the doors off of mine and your Honda 2.4L engine. Not sure where traffic moves that fast though.
I never knocked the TSX features (which ought to be better than the Accord since it costs as much as a loaded V6 Accord when new), but I still stand by my claim that my 4-cyl Accord is just as fast as the TSX. They aren't drag racers, they are family cars. It's not a big deal buddy. Actually, that was my only statement, which seems to have brought on the defensive. It wasn't my objective.
TSX is heavier car but once it gets upto speed. it is very refined crusier.
As is the Accord; the nicer ride (a lil less sporty than the TSX) makes my regular 300 mile highway trips a nice one. My car doesn't see track duty, so the balance of comfort and sport works for me.
#632 of 661 Re: '04 vs '04 [thegraduate]
May 19, 2008 (8:48 pm)
we are only comparing 04 accord to 04 TSX. not $29,000 new car. A older TSX is much better than older Accord. TSX age gracefully due to better quality paint. And it has all the features standard and much better fuel economy at higher speeds. i dont know about 04 accord coupe price but 04 TSX can be had from $14 to $18K.
#633 of 661 Re: '04 vs '04 [loi177]
May 19, 2008 (9:12 pm)
If you're talking about 4-cylinder Accords versus a TSX, then you are wrong on the fuel economy part, unless you can pull more than 40 MPG at 70 MPH.
And, if the 04 TSX costs more upfront, it will cost more used as well, unless the resale value isn't as good as the Accord's is. Which is it?
I heard ya the first time about the paint, although my 1996 Accord looks great after a life outside over 180k miles. I doubt most people keep their cars that long (I still have mine and drive it reguarly), but if they do, their Accord will be looking just fine.
More standard features, more $.