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#478 of 498 Re: Comparing the 2009 RABBIT and CIVIC [backy]
by thegraduate
Mar 20, 2009 (9:22 am)
There are several inaccuracies in your post. e.g. moonroof is standard on the Civic EX trims, as is intermittant wiper (all), as are remote power locks, power mirrors, cruise, center console (all trims but base?), floor mats are standard on Civic I think, stability control is available on upper-end trims on Civic.
All of what you say is true for US models, but maybe its different in Canada on SOME things. However, I'm looking at Honda-Canada's website for my info on the Civic, not VWs. To our friend who posted earlier, check out this link. It'll prove VW is untruthful/misinformed about the Civic. Click here to see it! Disc Brakes? Heated Leater Seats? Rear Armrest with Cupholders? Stability Control? Variable-Speed Intermittent Wipers? Yep, all available. I'd list more, but don't have the time to do so.
Not picking a fight here, just trying to help you be more informed.
Best regards,
TheGraduate
#479 of 498 Re: Comparing the 2009 RABBIT and CIVIC [thegraduate]
by backy
Mar 20, 2009 (9:30 am)
Well maybe so, eh, but I live in the US of A, eh.
I would think there would not be that much difference in available equipment in Canada, though, e.g. no power locks? mirrors? cruise? floor mats (even as options)? And Canada gets features we sometimes don't get, e.g. some cars up there routinely get heated seats and mirrors but US cars don't (an example that comes to mind is the lowly Accent, that has heated seats available in Canada but not the US).
Edit: I replied to your original post, not the edited version.
#480 of 498 Re: Comparing the 2009 RABBIT and CIVIC [backy]
by dieselbreath
Mar 20, 2009 (6:46 pm)
As I mentioned in the post, ALL information comes from EDMUNDS.COM using the compare vehicles feature.
I noticed errors about the VWs too, where it lists something as "not available" when its either optional or standard.
But it sounds like they are WAY off on the Civic features!
I wonder why, for a car site, Edmunds has so many errors in its specs for cars?
BTW: I love Honda's engines and they have good handling and are sportier than most Japanese cars. But I don't like the tinny doors ...
#481 of 498 This post is really silly!
by dieselbreath
Mar 20, 2009 (6:49 pm)
Comparing a Civic to a Rabbit makes sense.
Comparing a Jetta to an Accord makes sense.
(I used the compare feature with a Jetta 4-cyl. against a high-end Accord 4-cyl. and they were within a couple hundred on price and almost EXACTLY the same on features)
So those make sense to me ... but a Civic vs. a Jetta ... well, they're not even close in features, size, price .... I don't get it.
#482 of 498 Re: JETTA versus ACCORD
by dieselbreath
Mar 20, 2009 (7:30 pm)
Oops! I made a mistake there.
I compared a 5-cyl, manual Jetta against a 4-cyl, manual Accord.
Here: /www.edmunds.com/...../VehicleComparison....
The Honda has more HP, the Jetta has more Torque, they have similar performance.
And they have almost IDENTICAL features.
As close to the same car as you can get.
The main difference is that the Accord price is roughly $5,500 higher than the Jetta's price.
#483 of 498 Re: This post is really silly! [dieselbreath]
by backy
Mar 20, 2009 (8:26 pm)
You are right, the post was really silly.
Comparing a Jetta to a Civic makes sense--but be sure to compare equivalent trim levels.
Comparing a Jetta to an Accord makes little sense--you are comparing a compact to a much larger car, with a full-sized interior. Also you happened to compare a loaded Accord, with leather, to a lesser-trim Jetta. No wonder the Accord cost more. Try comparing a Passat to an Accord, with similar equipment, and see what you get.
#484 of 498 Re: This post is really silly! [backy]
by dieselbreath
Mar 21, 2009 (11:41 am)
That's so funny!
A base Passat has most of the features of a loaded Accord.
Same with a Jetta.
The Accord is a nice car, and has more room in the back seat than the Jetta, but the Jetta has a larger trunk and can handle more weight safely (better handling).
The Passat doesn't compete with the Accord ... it competes with the Benz C-class and BMW 3-series.
Still, I'd take an Accord over a Camry any day
#485 of 498 Re: This post is really silly! [dieselbreath]
by backy
Mar 21, 2009 (1:18 pm)
A base Passat has most of the features of a loaded Accord. Same with a Jetta.
A base Jetta has a leather interior? I don't think so. A base Jetta has power seats? No. A base Jetta has 17" alloys? No. A base Jetta has a moonroof? Nope. A base Jetta has auto climate control? Nein.
Seems a base Jetta is missing many features of a loaded Accord.
#486 of 498 Re: This post is really silly! [backy]
by thegraduate
Mar 21, 2009 (2:28 pm)
How about an engine with 6-cylinder smoothness and more than 270+ horsies?
#487 of 498 Re: This post is really silly! [thegraduate]
by backy
Mar 21, 2009 (2:56 pm)
Yah, well, I figured it was the I-engine comparison, since the Jetta can't be had with anything close to the Accord's V6.