Last post on Nov 25, 2008 at 3:57 PM
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Honda Civic, Toyota Corolla, Mazda MAZDA3, Sedan
#820 of 879 Re: Civic MPG's [moocow1]
Jun 14, 2008 (7:23 am)
I've heard at the Mazda "water cooler" that the 2009 Mazda3 will put a 5-speed auto in the next gen Mazda3i (thank god, it needs one!!!) Also, possibly a 6-speed manual for the s model.
#821 of 879 Re: Civic MPG's [backy]
Jun 14, 2008 (10:26 am)
At least you expect a mediocre car when you buy a Ford.
#822 of 879 Re: Civic MPG's [cz75]
Jun 14, 2008 (3:34 pm)
Don't forget that the Mazda3 is, in effect, a "Ford." But hardly mediocre.
#823 of 879 Re: Civic MPG's [backy]
Jun 15, 2008 (1:26 am)
Focus is still only 1/3 the sales of a Corolla. And honestly, the car isn't that much worse than a corolla. The interior is about even, the technology with sync is better, and the driving dynamics are basically 2000 sporty vs 2009 mushy. Not exactly a huge advantage for toyota. And most people with any information would know it's not a good driving car these days, it's for the silly features and the mpg.
And while Ford owns a chunk of Mazda, mazda still does whatever they want with the cars...their engineering for driving dynamics is just plain better. Also only the european focus uses the same platform until redesign.
#824 of 879 Re: Civic MPG's [moocow1]
Jun 15, 2008 (8:17 am)
I wouldn't call the 2009 Corolla "mushy". But it does have an exceptionally smooth, quiet ride for a small car. A good tradeoff compared to crisp handlers with firmer rides like the Civic and Mazda3, IMO.
At least the Corolla offers all the latest safety technology--unlike the Civic and Mazda3i. And Focus.
#825 of 879 Firmer Suspensions
Jun 15, 2008 (8:33 am)
Don't find our Civic or 3 that firm actually...both ride really smooth. Again, it comes down to peresonal preferences and perceptions. I could not tell Backy that his Elantra drives a certain way just based on some test drives no more than he can tell me how our cars ride. With age cars soften up and different areas of the country have different road surfaces. I've found that nothing is really absolute.
All great cars in this segment though.
#826 of 879 Re: Firmer Suspensions [sandman46]
Jun 15, 2008 (10:07 am)
I was giving my opinion of how the Corolla rides compared to the Civic and Mazda3. Others may have a different opinion. However, if you have not yet driven the 2009 Corolla to compare it to the Civic and Mazda3, I think if you do you will find that the Corolla's ride is considerably smoother and quieter than that of the other two cars. That may not be important for some buyers, but I see it as a significant difference in these 3 cars.
Jun 15, 2008 (4:18 pm)
I know I'm off topic here, but drove the '08 Sentra and '08 Versa today. Versa was a nice small car with a very large greenhouse look and comfy seats but the auto tranny wasn't up to the task. Didn't drive the CVT equipped car but bet it would have been much better. The CVT Sentra on the other hand was an awesome drive...seemless shifts with unlimited power up the power band and the car never felt bogged down no matter what I threw at it. Outstanding actually with no difference between it and our 2.3 3s actually. Had the wife drive them both also and she also said it drove almost identical to her 3. I was impressed!
Also checked out the Optima, Spectra, Rio, G5 and the G6. Now back to the topic at hand.
#828 of 879 Save me from Corolla!
Jul 11, 2008 (8:05 am)
Find me another four-door sedan that gets at least 25 mpg city and offers leather, navigation, and stability control. Please.
(The above parameters are non-negotiable. I tried. If I had my way, I'd buy a 3i with Katzkin and a $200 TomTom.)
#829 of 879 Re: Save me from Corolla! [momus]
Jul 11, 2008 (10:47 am)
How about a Jetta Diesel? Per the (rediculously low) EPA numbers, the 2009 Jetta Sedan gets 30 mpg city and 41 mpg highway, and it is available with all of the other goodies that you say are "non negotiable".
That said, I've now had two cars with stability control, and personally, I don't get what all the fuss is about, especially for FWD oriented cars.