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08 Mazda3 vs. 09 Lancer GTS by azr4el
May 09, 2008 (8:23 pm)
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Granted both of these cars are not up to par with the reliabilities of the Civic or Corolla but I feel like getting a car that will stand out (although i might regret it in the long run when my wallet gets hit hard with gas prices). I think I can get either car for about the same price with similar options. Any thoughts ?
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Re: 08 Mazda3 vs. 09 Lancer GTS [azr4el] by bamacar
Jun 05, 2008 (7:16 pm)
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Replying to: azr4el (May 09, 2008 8:23 pm)

Not sure about the Mitsubishi as they haven't had excellent reliability in a while, but Consumer Reports puts the Mazda 3 in the best reliability category which should be very comparable to a Civic or Corolla. CR doesn't have enough data to rate the reliability of the Lancer yet.
 
People seem to just blindly assume other manufacturers can't have a car equal in reliability to a Honda or Toyota.
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Re: 08 Mazda3 vs. 09 Lancer GTS [bamacar] by backy
Jun 06, 2008 (6:26 am)
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Replying to: bamacar (Jun 05, 2008 7:16 pm)

CR doesn't have enough data to rate the Corolla for reliability, either. In their July issue they declined to put "Recommended" on the Corolla, since it's a new design. I think CR learned something from their experience with the 2007 Camry V6.
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Re: 08 Mazda3 vs. 09 Lancer GTS [backy] by thegraduate
Jun 06, 2008 (6:30 am)
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Replying to: backy (Jun 06, 2008 6:26 am)

The Corolla is a new design?
 
 
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Re: 08 Mazda3 vs. 09 Lancer GTS [thegraduate] by backy
Jun 06, 2008 (6:35 am)
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Replying to: thegraduate (Jun 06, 2008 6:30 am)

For 2009, yes. New exterior, interior, suspension, and 1.8L engine--all different from the 2003-8 Corolla.
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Re: 08 Mazda3 vs. 09 Lancer GTS [backy] by thegraduate
Jun 06, 2008 (6:50 am)
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Replying to: backy (Jun 06, 2008 6:35 am)

Give me some credit, backy, I know that. I may have been a little tongue-in-cheek with that one.
 
I must admit, I knew the 1.8L had a small power bump, but didn't know it was really "different." It sure sounded similar to the old Corolla when riding in a Scion xD.
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Re: 08 Mazda3 vs. 09 Lancer GTS [thegraduate] by backy
Jun 06, 2008 (7:34 am)
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Replying to: thegraduate (Jun 06, 2008 6:50 am)

Toyota claims the 1.8L is "all new." You can take it up with them if you don't agree.
 
Anyway, back to the topic.... was just in my local Mazda dealer for some service on my MPV. Sat in the 2008 Mazda3i Touring VE. Very sharp car, about $18,150 with AT. A sales rep asked me how I liked it. I told him I'd like it a lot better if it had ESC. (I could have also told him the rear seat is a big tight, but I decided not to get into a lengthy discussion with him.) He said the Mazda3s has ESC. I replied that I liked the 3i for its FE and price, and didn't need the additional power of the 3s. He said, "It's all about choices, isn't it?" Yes, it is. So while I like a lot of things about the Civic and Mazda3, with the Civic having a slight advantage overall because of its exceptional crash test scores for the class, neither is my top choice in this class.
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Pure Driving Fun by sandman46
Jun 06, 2008 (4:10 pm)
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The Mazda 3s has this nailed, a real blast to drive. Plenty of power when needed while displaying buttoned down road manners in the twisties. I look forward to driving the wife's 3s after getting out of my Civic for the true exhilaration the 3s provides. Love the Civic for my everyday economical driving but when I feel the need for speed, it's the 3s hands down. Planning a trip to Orlando in August to secure housing for my middle girl who will be an intern at Epcot for six months starting in January, and have already told the wife I want to take her Mazda on the drive up. The impeccable road handling coupled with the power of the 2.3 engine make this a car that begs to be driven on the turnpike...fast! Having four wheel disc brakes makes for competent stopping power in all situations.
Glad we have both cars for my driving Dr. Jekyll/Mr. Hyde persona. Haven't really enjoyed driving since my truck accident 3 years ago but am finally getting back my love of driving. It'll be nice to have the three and a half hour drive up to Orlando on the wide open turnpike and the Mazda 3s is just the car to do it in. We tossed around the idea of renting a car but decided it best to just drive the 3 instead. Can spend an extra day there for the same $ we'd have spent on the week rental.
Zoom Zoom!
 
The Sandman
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Re: Pure Driving Fun [sandman46] by backy
Jun 06, 2008 (5:26 pm)
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Replying to: sandman46 (Jun 06, 2008 4:10 pm)

With gas at $4 per, I'm finding I feel the need for speed a lot less than I used to.
 
Now I would think that a car like the Mazda3 would be at its best in places with hills and twisties, not on the flat turnpikes of Florida. For that, I'd want something with a quiet, smooth ride more than anything. But that's me.
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Smooth Ride by sandman46
Jun 06, 2008 (5:37 pm)
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Since putting on the Traction T/A's last year, she drives quite smoothly and quietly. Driving with 3 adults and the luggage for the 5 of us, I really want the extra power of the 2.3 engine if needed. The wife and one daughter will be taking the train up a day earlier, as we can't fit all 5 and the needed luggage in either of our cars. Thus, the only drawback for having the econoboxes we both drive. We only need a larger car a few times a year, this being one of those times. but since we haven't taken a full family vacation since 2000, we'll make due.
Once your kids get in their 20's, they tend to shun family vacations. I've made this one mandatory as we all need to reconnect as a family since we went through a real rough patch after my accident. Besides, it'll be fun.
Did price out renting a Camry size car for the week, and we just decided to take the Mazda instead. Besides, it hasn't been on a road trip in almost 18 months...time to blow that engine out a bit!
 
The Sandman

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