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Hyundai Azera vs. Volkswagen Passat vs. Buick LaCrosse

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#24 of 93
Re: Azera SE vs Limited [robchemist] by tenpin288
Nov 28, 2005 (12:59 pm)
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Replying to: robchemist (Nov 28, 2005 9:21 am)

From Edmund's First Drive:
 
Hyundai Azera First Drive
 
Hyundai admits to setting its sights on the Toyota Avalon, but the Azera is so luxurious inside, challenging the Lexus ES 330 isn't out of the question. The Azera's center stack is clean and elegant with wood and aluminum trim galore, and there's no cheap plastic to be found. Instead, quality touches like a thick headliner, fabric-wrapped door pillars and triple door seals help the Azera envelope passengers in quiet comfort. Contrast stitching along the soft leather seat covers help to increase the Azera's style quotient.
 
Methinks that implies a fairly decent level of quietness.
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Re: Azera noise level? [smith20] by robchemist
Nov 28, 2005 (1:32 pm)
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Replying to: smith20 (Nov 28, 2005 12:28 pm)

I think that you misread my post. As far as I know, Hyundai has never stressed quietness in their build. Some manufacturers do, some don't. Their is no bias in my post one way or another. It will be interesting to see the car actually tests out. For example, post #24 has a link noting the "triple door seals" and the initial driving impressions by Edmunds. The triple door seals would be expected to make the car quieter at highway speed, but will have no effect on wheel/engine/environmental noise. These latter issues deal with sheet metal type (multilayer vs. single) and vibrational damping, glass type, direct air entry points, amount and type of sound absorbant both in the cabin and in the intercompartmental spaces, etc. From my perspective, the only numbers that will count is when one actually uses a sound meter to measure the sound - thus my comments in the previous post regarding the Avalon and LaCrosse.
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Re: Azera noise level? [robchemist] by averigejoe
Nov 28, 2005 (4:21 pm)
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Replying to: robchemist (Nov 28, 2005 1:32 pm)

Yep. Sounds like anti-Hyundai bias to me too.
(Of course Hyundai trys to build quiet cars. And their car building has been getting much better over the past several years. Why would they do any differently?)
#27 of 93
Re: Azera noise level? [robchemist] by smith20
Nov 29, 2005 (6:21 am)
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Replying to: robchemist (Nov 28, 2005 1:32 pm)

I think that you misread my post.
 
What is there to misread? There's hardly anything there. Azera is only mentioned in the first sentence. Let's revisit that first sentence:
 
The other feature that one will almost certainly get with the Azera, although Hyundai will not likely list it, is extra noise.
 
You make an unsubstantiated claim that the Azera is going to have extra noise, mockingly called a "feature". Seems to me like the only point of your post was to make fun of Hyundai.
#28 of 93
Re: Azera noise level? [smith20] by robchemist
Nov 29, 2005 (8:41 am)
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Replying to: smith20 (Nov 29, 2005 6:21 am)

Oh, have a sense of humor! Also, I did not say it "will" have more noise - I said that it will likely have more noise. Even though I would bet at least a cup of Starbucks that the Azera is going to be noisier than the comparable Buick (LaCrosse or Lucerne) or Toyota (Avalon), I will wait that for empirical evidence before actually stating that it is (or is not) a less quiet vehicle. I do, however, agree with you and the other posters that Hyundai has greatly improved both their design and manufacturing capability over the past few years (as evidenced by, for example, JDPower reports).
#29 of 93
Azera equipment by jeffreid
Dec 05, 2005 (8:04 am)
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To answer the option and package equipment questions, here are the facts. The Limited Azera will have heated leather seats vs. the cloth with optional heat in the SE. Also, you will get 17" wheels vs. 16" on the SE. Further, a power rear sunshade, electroluminescent gauges, woodgrain on the door pulls and steering wheel, and exterior chrome touches will make the Limited different.
 
The SE will have a premium package that will consist of a roof, upgraded sound, and heated seats. The Limited will have the same package without the heated seat being there (since it is standard). The Limited will also have the Ultimate package available. The Ultimate will have power pedals,steering wheel, and folding exterior mirrors. Also the roof, and the upgraded sound will come with this, as well as a memory system for the driver's seat,wheel,and mirrors. Moisture-sensitive windshield wipers will come with this package also.
 
I also have color combos and some other info if anyone is interested. Feel free to email me.
#30 of 93
Passat features compared to Azera features by fdcapt2
Dec 05, 2005 (10:08 pm)
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I posted on the 2006 Azera page about my purchase of the '06 Passat with the 3.6 V6. It cost me about $3000 more to buy the Passat, but the equipment it has compared to the Azera is nice. Front and rear park assist, turn signals in the mirrors, B i-Zenon headlights that turn as you enter a curve to light things up, headlight washers, heated windshield washer nozzles, 600 watt sound system, driver and passenger 12 way power seats with power lumbar, cornering lights, puddle lamps under the mirrors, and much more. I guess that maybe the fact that Hyundai dragged their feet with the Azera, and kept everything so quiet as far as release dates, etc., that I ended up with a better car. I was buying the Azera from the first reports and pictures way back when, but it just got to be to frustrating not knowing when this car would be here. Enjoy your new Azera, I hope it was worth the wait.
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Re: Nice little Passat [fdcapt2] by averigejoe
Dec 06, 2005 (10:12 am)
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Replying to: fdcapt2 (Dec 05, 2005 10:08 pm)

I bet a lot of people who are interested in the Azera would not even look at the Passat because it is so much smaller than the Azera. If lots of passenger and trunk space is needed, then a shopper might look at the Avalon or Ford 500, but not the Passat.
No doubt though, the Passat is a nice little car.
#32 of 93
Re: Nice little Passat [averigejoe] by bjbird2
Dec 06, 2005 (2:20 pm)
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Replying to: averigejoe (Dec 06, 2005 10:12 am)

My gut tells me the 2006 Passat is bigger than the Azera, unfortunately I can't find any specs on the Azura
#33 of 93
Re: Nice little Passat [bjbird2] by rgyip
Dec 06, 2005 (2:43 pm)
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Replying to: bjbird2 (Dec 06, 2005 2:20 pm)

Nope. The new Passat,while has grown over the previous iteration, is smaller than the new Sonata. The Azera is definately bigger than the new Passat.

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